From: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
To: Koba Ko <kobak@nvidia.com>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Felix Abecassis <fabecassis@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/topology: Avoid spurious asymmetry from CPU capacity noise
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 13:29:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <acPVRY1NMH4P_y4I@gpd4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <oh5uha4ke3ibcdzswum4gmn65jpfjgq4p7lv4z2sukphz5uw4u@nunh45tjvqot>
Hi Koba,
On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 11:30:48AM +0800, Koba Ko wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 10:39:41AM +0100, Andrea Righi wrote:
> > Hi Vincent,
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 08:39:34AM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > > On Tue, 24 Mar 2026 at 01:55, Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On some platforms, the firmware may expose per-CPU performance
> > > > differences (e.g., via ACPI CPPC highest_perf) even when the system is
> > > > effectively symmetric. These small variations, typically due to silicon
> > > > binning, are reflected in arch_scale_cpu_capacity() and end up being
> > > > interpreted as real capacity asymmetry.
> > > >
> > > > As a result, the scheduler incorrectly enables SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY,
> > > > triggering asymmetry-specific behaviors, even though all CPUs have
> > > > comparable performance.
> > > >
> > > > Prevent this by treating CPU capacities within 20% of the maximum value
> > >
> > > 20% is a bit high, my snapdragon rb5 has a mid CPU with a capacity of
> > > 871 but we still want to keep them different
> > >
> > > Why would 5% not be enough?
> >
> > Sure, 5% seems a more reasonable margin. I'll just reuse capacity_greater()
> > as suggested by Christian.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Andrea
> >
>
> How about modifying asym_cpu_capacity_update_data to group all CPUs within 5% capacity difference into the same group?
> ```
> +#define capacity_greater(cap1, cap2) ((cap1) * 1024 > (cap2) * 1078)
>
> list_for_each_entry(entry, &asym_cap_list, link) {
> - if (capacity == entry->capacity)
> + if (!capacity_greater(capacity, entry->capacity) &&
> + !capacity_greater(entry->capacity, capacity))
Yeah, makes sense, I like this better than mine. But there's still the
concern of potentially regressing other systems, nullifying the small
asym-capacity benefits (as Chris mentioned here:
https://lore.kernel.org/r/15ffdeb3-a0f3-4b88-92c0-17ffb03b0574@arm.com).
Thanks,
-Andrea
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-25 12:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-24 0:55 [PATCH] sched/topology: Avoid spurious asymmetry from CPU capacity noise Andrea Righi
2026-03-24 7:39 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-03-24 7:55 ` Christian Loehle
2026-03-24 8:08 ` Christian Loehle
2026-03-24 9:46 ` Andrea Righi
2026-03-24 10:29 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-03-24 11:01 ` Andrea Righi
2026-03-25 9:23 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-03-25 9:32 ` Andrea Righi
2026-03-25 11:16 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-03-25 12:25 ` Andrea Righi
2026-03-25 15:26 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-03-25 16:50 ` Andrea Righi
2026-03-25 12:48 ` Phil Auld
2026-03-24 9:39 ` Andrea Righi
2026-03-25 3:30 ` Koba Ko
2026-03-25 12:29 ` Andrea Righi [this message]
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