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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Nikita Kalyazin <kalyazin@amazon.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 13/15] KVM: guest_memfd: implement userfaultfd operations
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2026 14:47:39 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <acZuW7_7yBdVsJqK@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADrL8HViJ_GaRUd-k9MyM0S8b7sz3whGJHNwvFfCk+pw0+kRgA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 07:33:03PM -0700, James Houghton wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2026 at 9:19 AM Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > From: Nikita Kalyazin <kalyazin@amazon.com>
> >
> > userfaultfd notifications about page faults used for live migration
> > and snapshotting of VMs.
> >
> > MISSING mode allows post-copy live migration and MINOR mode allows
> > optimization for post-copy live migration for VMs backed with shared
> > hugetlbfs or tmpfs mappings as described in detail in commit
> > 7677f7fd8be7 ("userfaultfd: add minor fault registration mode").
> >
> > To use the same mechanisms for VMs that use guest_memfd to map their
> > memory, guest_memfd should support userfaultfd operations.
> >
> > Add implementation of vm_uffd_ops to guest_memfd.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Nikita Kalyazin <kalyazin@amazon.com>
> > Co-developed-by: Mike Rapoport (Microsoft) <rppt@kernel.org>
> > Signed-off-by: Mike Rapoport (Microsoft) <rppt@kernel.org>
> 
> Overall looks fine to me, but I am slightly concerned about in-place
> conversion[1], and I think you're going to want to implement a
> kvm_gmem_folio_present() op or something (like I was saying on the
> previous patch[2]).

Let's solve each problem in it's time :)
 
> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20260326-gmem-inplace-conversion-v4-0-e202fe950ffd@google.com/
> [2]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/CADrL8HVUJ5FL97d9ytxp2WXos6HS+U+ycpsi5VxffsW9vacr9Q@mail.gmail.com/
> 
> Some in-line comments below.
> 
> > ---
> >  mm/filemap.c           |  1 +
> >  virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c | 84 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> >  2 files changed, 83 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/mm/filemap.c b/mm/filemap.c
> > index 6cd7974d4ada..19dfcebcd23f 100644
> > --- a/mm/filemap.c
> > +++ b/mm/filemap.c
> > @@ -107,6 +108,12 @@ static int kvm_gmem_prepare_folio(struct kvm *kvm, struct kvm_memory_slot *slot,
> >         return __kvm_gmem_prepare_folio(kvm, slot, index, folio);
> >  }
> >
> > +static struct folio *kvm_gmem_get_folio_noalloc(struct inode *inode, pgoff_t pgoff)
> > +{
> > +       return __filemap_get_folio(inode->i_mapping, pgoff,
> > +                                  FGP_LOCK | FGP_ACCESSED, 0);
> > +}
> 
> When in-place conversion is supported, I wonder what the semantics
> should be for when we get userfaults.
> 
> Upon a userspace access to a file offset that is populated but
> private, should we get a userfault or a SIGBUS?
> 
> I guess getting a userfault is strictly more useful for userspace, but
> I'm not sure which choice is more correct.
 
Me neither :)

We can deliver userfault, but just block UFFDIO_COPY, can't we?

> > +static int kvm_gmem_filemap_add(struct folio *folio,
> > +                               struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> > +                               unsigned long addr)
> > +{
> > +       struct inode *inode = file_inode(vma->vm_file);
> > +       struct address_space *mapping = inode->i_mapping;
> > +       pgoff_t pgoff = linear_page_index(vma, addr);
> > +       int err;
> > +
> > +       __folio_set_locked(folio);
> > +       err = filemap_add_folio(mapping, folio, pgoff, GFP_KERNEL);
> 
> This is going to get more interesting with in-place conversion. I'm
> not really sure how to synchronize with it, but we'll probably need to
> take the invalidate lock for reading. And then we'll need a separate
> uffd_op to drop it after we install the PTE... I think.

I think we can start simple and then move on along with the in-place
conversion work. If there will be a need for a new uffd_ops callback we can
add it then.
 
-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-27 11:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-06 17:18 [PATCH v2 00/15] mm, kvm: allow uffd support in guest_memfd Mike Rapoport
2026-03-06 17:18 ` [PATCH v2 01/15] userfaultfd: introduce mfill_copy_folio_locked() helper Mike Rapoport
2026-03-20 11:58   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-06 17:18 ` [PATCH v2 02/15] userfaultfd: introduce struct mfill_state Mike Rapoport
2026-03-20 12:43   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-22 10:03     ` Mike Rapoport
2026-03-06 17:18 ` [PATCH v2 03/15] userfaultfd: introduce mfill_get_pmd() helper Mike Rapoport
2026-03-20 12:55   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-22 10:22     ` Mike Rapoport
2026-03-30 15:21       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-06 17:18 ` [PATCH v2 04/15] userfaultfd: introduce mfill_get_vma() and mfill_put_vma() Mike Rapoport
     [not found]   ` <abe1FHyYinvfLYnw@hyeyoo>
2026-03-16  7:48     ` [PATCH v2 4/15] " Harry Yoo
2026-03-16  8:05       ` Deepanshu Kartikey
2026-03-16  8:36         ` Harry Yoo
2026-03-16  8:52           ` Deepanshu Kartikey
2026-03-06 17:18 ` [PATCH v2 05/15] userfaultfd: retry copying with locks dropped in mfill_atomic_pte_copy() Mike Rapoport
2026-03-06 17:18 ` [PATCH v2 06/15] userfaultfd: move vma_can_userfault out of line Mike Rapoport
2026-03-06 17:18 ` [PATCH v2 07/15] userfaultfd: introduce vm_uffd_ops Mike Rapoport
2026-03-11 18:49   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-03-06 17:18 ` [PATCH v2 08/15] shmem, userfaultfd: use a VMA callback to handle UFFDIO_CONTINUE Mike Rapoport
2026-03-26 23:43   ` James Houghton
2026-03-27  0:26     ` Andrew Morton
2026-03-27  7:12     ` Mike Rapoport
2026-03-06 17:18 ` [PATCH v2 09/15] userfaultfd: introduce vm_uffd_ops->alloc_folio() Mike Rapoport
2026-03-27  0:07   ` James Houghton
2026-03-27  7:17     ` Mike Rapoport
2026-03-06 17:18 ` [PATCH v2 10/15] shmem, userfaultfd: implement shmem uffd operations using vm_uffd_ops Mike Rapoport
2026-03-27  1:13   ` James Houghton
2026-03-27  7:46     ` Mike Rapoport
2026-03-06 17:18 ` [PATCH v2 11/15] userfaultfd: mfill_atomic(): remove retry logic Mike Rapoport
2026-03-06 17:18 ` [PATCH v2 12/15] mm: generalize handling of userfaults in __do_fault() Mike Rapoport
2026-03-27  1:55   ` James Houghton
2026-03-27 11:31     ` Mike Rapoport
2026-03-06 17:18 ` [PATCH v2 13/15] KVM: guest_memfd: implement userfaultfd operations Mike Rapoport
2026-03-27  2:33   ` James Houghton
2026-03-27 11:47     ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2026-03-06 17:18 ` [PATCH v2 14/15] KVM: selftests: test userfaultfd minor for guest_memfd Mike Rapoport
2026-03-06 17:18 ` [PATCH v2 15/15] KVM: selftests: test userfaultfd missing " Mike Rapoport
2026-03-06 22:21 ` [PATCH v2 00/15] mm, kvm: allow uffd support in guest_memfd Andrew Morton
2026-03-26 23:23 ` Andrew Morton

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