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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Anand Jain <anajain.sg@gmail.com>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, Anand Jain <asj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] ext4: derive f_fsid from block device to avoid collisions
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2026 22:22:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adSUiB9L0sFAd04U@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5bda3d00-df35-4ea1-b313-2fef6e5c5682@gmail.com>

On Sat, Apr 04, 2026 at 04:59:08PM +0800, Anand Jain wrote:
> Context:
> Currently, ext4's f_fsid is consistent across reboots but fails to be
> unique when dealing with cloned filesystems (sharing the same UUID). Per
> statfs(2) [1], the primary requirement is that the (f_fsid, ino) pair
> uniquely identifies a file. The man page makes no explicit guarantee
> regarding consistency across mount cycles or reboots.
> 
> Proposal:
> With this fix, f_fsid becomes f(uuid, dev_t). This ensures OS-wide
> uniqueness and maintains consistency as long as the underlying dev_t
> remains stable.
> 
> Dilemma:
> While statfs(2) [1] suggests f_fsid is "some random stuff," we know
> userspace (NFS, systemd) often treats it as a persistent handle.
> 
> Do you prefer one of the names above, or is there a more idiomatic ext4
> naming convention I should follow?
> 
> Given the ambiguity in the man page, is gating this behind an -o option
> necessary, or should we consider making uniqueness the default behavior?
> 

My take is that anything that should persist should be an on-disk
feature flag, not a mount option.  But I'm not in charge for ext4.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-07  5:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-21 11:55 [PATCH v2 0/3] fix s_uuid and f_fsid consistency for cloned filesystems Anand Jain
2026-03-21 11:55 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] btrfs: use on-disk uuid for s_uuid in temp_fsid mounts Anand Jain
2026-03-21 11:55 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] btrfs: derive f_fsid from on-disk fsuuid and dev_t Anand Jain
2026-03-21 11:55 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] ext4: derive f_fsid from block device to avoid collisions Anand Jain
2026-03-23  4:16   ` Theodore Tso
2026-03-23 15:29     ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-03-23 16:44       ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-03-25 10:02       ` Andreas Dilger
2026-03-25 10:59         ` Anand Jain
2026-03-25 12:59           ` Theodore Tso
2026-04-02  7:33             ` Anand Jain
2026-03-23 15:41     ` Anand Jain
2026-04-04  8:59       ` Anand Jain
2026-04-07  5:22         ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2026-04-07 14:47           ` Theodore Tso
2026-04-08 22:28             ` Anand Jain
2026-04-09  4:10               ` Theodore Tso
2026-04-09  9:45                 ` Anand Jain
2026-04-09 13:12                   ` Theodore Tso
2026-04-16 15:21                     ` Anand Jain
2026-04-17  7:34                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-04-22 11:39                         ` Anand Jain
2026-04-23  5:08                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-04-27 10:16                             ` Anand Jain

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