From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Anand Jain <anajain.sg@gmail.com>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, Anand Jain <asj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] ext4: derive f_fsid from block device to avoid collisions
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2026 22:22:16 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <adSUiB9L0sFAd04U@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5bda3d00-df35-4ea1-b313-2fef6e5c5682@gmail.com>
On Sat, Apr 04, 2026 at 04:59:08PM +0800, Anand Jain wrote:
> Context:
> Currently, ext4's f_fsid is consistent across reboots but fails to be
> unique when dealing with cloned filesystems (sharing the same UUID). Per
> statfs(2) [1], the primary requirement is that the (f_fsid, ino) pair
> uniquely identifies a file. The man page makes no explicit guarantee
> regarding consistency across mount cycles or reboots.
>
> Proposal:
> With this fix, f_fsid becomes f(uuid, dev_t). This ensures OS-wide
> uniqueness and maintains consistency as long as the underlying dev_t
> remains stable.
>
> Dilemma:
> While statfs(2) [1] suggests f_fsid is "some random stuff," we know
> userspace (NFS, systemd) often treats it as a persistent handle.
>
> Do you prefer one of the names above, or is there a more idiomatic ext4
> naming convention I should follow?
>
> Given the ambiguity in the man page, is gating this behind an -o option
> necessary, or should we consider making uniqueness the default behavior?
>
My take is that anything that should persist should be an on-disk
feature flag, not a mount option. But I'm not in charge for ext4.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-07 5:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-21 11:55 [PATCH v2 0/3] fix s_uuid and f_fsid consistency for cloned filesystems Anand Jain
2026-03-21 11:55 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] btrfs: use on-disk uuid for s_uuid in temp_fsid mounts Anand Jain
2026-03-21 11:55 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] btrfs: derive f_fsid from on-disk fsuuid and dev_t Anand Jain
2026-03-21 11:55 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] ext4: derive f_fsid from block device to avoid collisions Anand Jain
2026-03-23 4:16 ` Theodore Tso
2026-03-23 15:29 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-03-23 16:44 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-03-25 10:02 ` Andreas Dilger
2026-03-25 10:59 ` Anand Jain
2026-03-25 12:59 ` Theodore Tso
2026-04-02 7:33 ` Anand Jain
2026-03-23 15:41 ` Anand Jain
2026-04-04 8:59 ` Anand Jain
2026-04-07 5:22 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2026-04-07 14:47 ` Theodore Tso
2026-04-08 22:28 ` Anand Jain
2026-04-09 4:10 ` Theodore Tso
2026-04-09 9:45 ` Anand Jain
2026-04-09 13:12 ` Theodore Tso
2026-04-16 15:21 ` Anand Jain
2026-04-17 7:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-04-22 11:39 ` Anand Jain
2026-04-23 5:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-04-27 10:16 ` Anand Jain
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