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From: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>
To: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, zbr@ioremap.net, jarkao2@gmail.com,
	dada1@cosmosbay.com, ben@zeus.com, mingo@elte.hu,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	jens.axboe@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] tcp: splice as many packets as possible at once
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 11:19:06 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ada63jqm2mt.fsf@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090204091217.GA21385@1wt.eu> (Willy Tarreau's message of "Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:12:17 +0100")

 > And the arbitrary choice of 9k for jumbo frames was total crap too.
 > It's clear that no hardware designer was involved in the process.
 > They have to stuff 16kB of RAM on a NIC to use only 9. And we need
 > to allocate 3 pages for slightly more than 2. 7.5 kB would have been
 > better in this regard.

9K was not totally arbitrary.  The CRC used for checksumming ethernet
packets has a probability of undetected errors that goes up about
11-thousand something bytes.  So the real limit is ~11000 bytes, and I
believe ~9000 was chosen to be able to carry 8K NFS payloads + all XDR
and transport headers without fragmentation.

 - R.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-04 19:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 190+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-08 17:30 [PATCH] tcp: splice as many packets as possible at once Willy Tarreau
2009-01-08 19:44 ` Jens Axboe
2009-01-08 22:03   ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-08 21:50 ` Ben Mansell
2009-01-08 21:55   ` David Miller
2009-01-08 22:20     ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-13 23:08       ` David Miller
2009-01-09  6:47     ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-09  7:04       ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-09  7:28         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-09  7:42           ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-13 23:27           ` David Miller
2009-01-13 23:35             ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-09 15:42       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-09 17:57         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-09 18:54         ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-09 20:51           ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-09 21:24             ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-09 22:02               ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-09 22:09                 ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-09 22:07               ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-09 22:12                 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-09 22:17                   ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-09 22:42                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-09 22:50                       ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-09 23:01                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-09 23:06                           ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-10  7:40                       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-11 12:58                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-11 13:14                           ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-11 13:35                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-11 16:00                               ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-11 16:05                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14  0:07                                   ` David Miller
2009-01-14  0:13                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14  0:16                                       ` David Miller
2009-01-14  0:22                                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-14  0:37                                           ` David Miller
2009-01-14  3:51                                             ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-14  4:25                                               ` David Miller
2009-01-14  7:27                                               ` David Miller
2009-01-14  8:26                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-14  8:53                                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-14  9:29                                                     ` David Miller
2009-01-14  9:42                                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-14 10:06                                                         ` David Miller
2009-01-14 10:47                                                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-14 11:29                                                             ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-14 11:40                                                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-14 11:45                                                                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-14  9:54                                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-14 10:01                                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-14 12:06                                                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-14 12:15                                                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-14 11:28                                                       ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-15 23:03                                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-15 23:19                                                         ` David Miller
2009-01-15 23:19                                                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-15 23:26                                                           ` David Miller
2009-01-15 23:32                                                             ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-15 23:34                                                               ` David Miller
2009-01-15 23:42                                                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-15 23:44                                                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-15 23:54                                                                     ` David Miller
2009-01-19  0:42                                                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-19  3:08                                                                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-19  3:27                                                                           ` David Miller
2009-01-19  6:14                                                                             ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-19  6:19                                                                               ` David Miller
2009-01-19  6:45                                                                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-19 10:19                                                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-19 20:59                                                                                   ` David Miller
2009-01-19 21:24                                                                                     ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-25 21:03                                                                                     ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-26  7:59                                                                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-26  8:12                                                                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-19  8:40                                                                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-19  3:28                                                                         ` David Miller
2009-01-19  6:11                                                                           ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-24 21:23                                                                           ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-20 12:01                                                                         ` Ben Mansell
2009-01-20 12:11                                                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-20 13:43                                                                             ` Ben Mansell
2009-01-20 14:06                                                                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-16  6:51                                                                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-19  6:08                                                                       ` David Miller
2009-01-19  6:16                                                                 ` David Miller
2009-01-19 10:20                                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-20  8:37                                                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-20  9:33                                                               ` [PATCH v2] " Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-20 10:00                                                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-20 10:20                                                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-20 10:31                                                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-20 11:01                                                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-20 17:16                                                                         ` David Miller
2009-01-21  9:54                                                                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-22  9:04                                                                           ` [PATCH v3] " Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-26  5:22                                                                             ` David Miller
2009-01-27  7:11                                                                               ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-27  7:54                                                                                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-27 10:09                                                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-27 10:35                                                                                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-27 10:57                                                                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-27 11:48                                                                                       ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-27 12:16                                                                                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-27 12:31                                                                                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-27 17:06                                                                                             ` David Miller
2009-01-28  8:10                                                                                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-01  8:41                                                                                 ` David Miller
2009-01-26  8:20                                                                       ` [PATCH v2] " Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-26 21:21                                                                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-01-27  6:10                                                                           ` David Miller
2009-01-27  7:40                                                                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-01-30 21:42                                                                               ` David Miller
2009-01-30 21:59                                                                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-30 22:03                                                                                   ` David Miller
2009-01-30 22:13                                                                                     ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-30 22:15                                                                                       ` David Miller
2009-01-30 22:16                                                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-02  8:08                                                                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-02  8:18                                                                                     ` David Miller
2009-02-02  8:43                                                                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-03  7:50                                                                                         ` David Miller
2009-02-03  9:41                                                                                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-03 11:10                                                                                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-03 11:24                                                                                               ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-03 11:49                                                                                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-03 11:53                                                                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-03 12:07                                                                                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-03 12:12                                                                                                       ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-03 12:18                                                                                                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-03 12:25                                                                                                           ` Willy Tarreau
2009-02-03 12:28                                                                                                             ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-04  0:47                                                                                                             ` David Miller
2009-02-04  6:19                                                                                                               ` Willy Tarreau
2009-02-04  8:12                                                                                                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-04  8:54                                                                                                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2009-02-04  8:59                                                                                                                     ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-04  9:01                                                                                                                       ` David Miller
2009-02-04  9:12                                                                                                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2009-02-04  9:15                                                                                                                           ` David Miller
2009-02-04 19:19                                                                                                                           ` Roland Dreier [this message]
2009-02-04 19:28                                                                                                                             ` Willy Tarreau
2009-02-04 19:48                                                                                                                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-05  8:32                                                                                                                           ` Bill Fink
2009-02-04  9:12                                                                                                                 ` David Miller
2009-02-03 12:27                                                                                                           ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-03 13:05                                                                                                   ` david
2009-02-03 12:12                                                                                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-03 12:18                                                                                                       ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-03 12:30                                                                                                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-03 12:33                                                                                                           ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-03 12:33                                                                                                         ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-04  0:46                                                                                                 ` David Miller
2009-02-04  9:41                                                                                                   ` Benny Amorsen
2009-02-04 12:01                                                                                                     ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-03 12:36                                                                                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-03 13:06                                                                                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-03 13:25                                                                                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-03 14:20                                                                                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-04  0:46                                                                                               ` David Miller
2009-02-04  8:08                                                                                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-02-04  9:23                                                                                                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-04  7:56                                                                                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-06  7:52                                                                                             ` David Miller
2009-02-06  8:09                                                                                               ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-06  9:10                                                                                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-06  9:17                                                                                                 ` David Miller
2009-02-06  9:42                                                                                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-06  9:49                                                                                                     ` David Miller
2009-02-06  9:23                                                                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-06  9:51                                                                                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-06 10:28                                                                                                     ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-06 10:58                                                                                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-06 11:10                                                                                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2009-02-06 11:47                                                                                                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-06 18:59                                                                                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-03 11:38                                                                                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-27 18:42                                                                             ` David Miller
2009-01-15 23:32                                                           ` [PATCH] " Willy Tarreau
2009-01-15 23:35                                                             ` David Miller
2009-01-14  0:51                                         ` Herbert Xu
2009-01-14  1:24                                           ` David Miller
2009-01-09 22:45                     ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-09 22:53                       ` Willy Tarreau
2009-01-09 23:34                         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-13  5:45                           ` David Miller
2009-01-14  0:05                           ` David Miller
2009-01-13 23:31         ` David Miller
2009-01-13 23:26       ` David Miller

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