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From: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jeff Mahoney <jeffm@suse.com>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Alexander Beregalov <a.beregalov@gmail.com>,
	Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmail.fm>,
	Reiserfs <reiserfs-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrea Gelmini <andrea.gelmini@gmail.com>,
	"Trenton D. Adams" <trenton.d.adams@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Meyer <thomas@m3y3r.de>,
	Alessio Igor Bogani <abogani@texware.it>,
	Marcel Hilzinger <mhilzinger@linuxnewmedia.de>,
	Edward Shishkin <edward.shishkin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Reiserfs/kill-bkl tree v2
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:04:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adatz0po5cn.fsf@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090802142100.GA21160@elte.hu> (Ingo Molnar's message of "Sun, 2 Aug 2009 16:21:00 +0200")


 > Well, dont waste too much time on it (beyond the due diligence 
 > level) - Andi forgot that the right way to stress-test patches is to 
 > get through the review process and then through the integration 
 > trees which have far more test exposure than any single contributor 
 > can test.
 > 
 > Patch submitters cannot possibly test every crazy possibility that 
 > is out there - nor should they: it just doesnt scale. What we expect 
 > people to do is to write clean patches, to test the bits on their 
 > own boxes and submit them to lkml and address specific review 
 > feedback.

I respectfully disagree in this case.  For patches that touch, say,
something hardware dependent where the patch submitter doesn't have all
the variations on the hardware, yes, I agree, scale the testing by
running the code on many machines.  But for the code in question, where
some very fundamental and complex changes are being made to filesystem
locking, I don't think that testing really scales -- after all, if there
is some race then it's quite likely that testers will just see some rare
filesystem corruption, which could easily waste weeks of debugging
before the BKL/reiserfs patches were even implicated.

 - R.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-03  5:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-31 17:46 [ANNOUNCE] Reiserfs/kill-bkl tree v2 Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-01  8:11 ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-01 15:53   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-02 14:21     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-02 14:32       ` Daniel Walker
2009-08-02 23:41       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-08-03  6:09         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-05 22:10           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-03  5:04       ` Roland Dreier [this message]
2009-08-03 13:26         ` Chris Mason
2009-08-03 13:56           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-03 13:56             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-05 22:13           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-05 22:13             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-09 23:27           ` [PATCH] kill-the-bkl/reiserfs: fix early readdir offset increment Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-09 23:27             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-05 21:59       ` [ANNOUNCE] Reiserfs/kill-bkl tree v2 Frederic Weisbecker

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