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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] fs: drop_caches: introduce per-node drop_caches interface
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2026 09:06:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <addP4MKmA8zfSN1o@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260409063503.3475420-1-wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>

On Thu 09-04-26 14:35:03, Kefeng Wang wrote:
> Add a sysfs interface at /sys/devices/system/node/nodeX/drop_caches
> to allow dropping caches on a specific NUMA node.
> 
> The existing global drop_caches mechanism (/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches)
> operates across all NUMA nodes indiscriminately, causing,
> - Unnecessary eviction of hot cache on some nodes
> - Performance degradation for applications with NUMA affinity
> - Long times spent on large systems with lots of memory
> 
> By exposing a per-node interface, admistrator can,
> - Target specific nodes experiencing memory pressure
> - Preserve cache on unaffected nodes
> - Perform reclamation with finer granularity

Quite honestly drop_caches is not the best interface to build any new
functionality on top of. It has backfired a lot in the past and we have
tried to make it extra clear that this should be used for debugging
purposes only. Extending it further sounds like a bad step.

> One use cases is hot-pluggable NUMA nodes, during hot-remove, simply
> dropping pagecache is far more efficient than migrating large amounts
> of pages to other nodes, which also eliminating the risk of accessing
> potentially faulty memory.

Does the per-node reclaim interface can help with this by
any means?

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-09  7:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-09  6:35 [PATCH RFC] fs: drop_caches: introduce per-node drop_caches interface Kefeng Wang
2026-04-09  7:06 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2026-04-09  7:19   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-09  8:21     ` Kefeng Wang
2026-04-09  8:27       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-09  8:08   ` Kefeng Wang
2026-04-09  8:22     ` Michal Hocko
2026-04-09  8:54       ` Kefeng Wang
2026-04-09 10:52         ` Michal Hocko
2026-04-09 12:50           ` Kefeng Wang
2026-04-09 13:00             ` Kefeng Wang
2026-04-09 13:01             ` Michal Hocko
2026-04-09 13:45               ` Kefeng Wang
2026-04-09  8:30     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-09 15:16     ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-09 19:41       ` Michal Hocko
2026-04-09 20:39         ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-13  8:29 ` kernel test robot
2026-04-13  8:29 ` kernel test robot

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