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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
To: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
Cc: Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] mm: improve large folio readahead and alignment for exec memory
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2026 14:50:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adj_SXXEwyi3bxum@lucifer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40f31e5a-7161-4b17-af03-52b3a28a113e@kernel.org>

On Fri, Apr 10, 2026 at 03:29:12PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
> On 4/10/26 14:24, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2026 at 01:19:08PM +0100, Usama Arif wrote:
> >> >> Thanks, Lorenzo
> >> >
> >> > (Note that we're in a 'quiet period' from here until -rc1 of next cycle and
> >> > won't be taking anything new until then. We plan to do this from around rc5 or
> >> > rc6 of each cycle in future).
> >>
> >> Thanks! Just wanted to check, as I am always confused about this. Is it ok
> >> to send patches for review for next release at this time? So that they
> >> are in a good state when rc1 comes. I wanted to send PMD swap entries
> >> for review after I am finished testing, but I want them for review for
> >> next release.
> >
> > I think different people have different views on that :)
> >
> > I mean it's debateable whether having a glut of new material on day one of -rc1
> > is preferable to having a bunch come in that might or might not get lost along
> > the way :)
> >
> > I personally feel it'd be better to send during the cycle window rather than
> > before but I suspect others disagree with that!
> >
> > So from your point of view, feel free to do what you like, but maybe David +
> > others would want to chime in with their opinions?
>
> For me the more important part of the quiet period is that patches can't be
> merged, so there's less urgency to review them immediately. So I think it's
> fine to still send patches, but not having expectations about quick
> response, as people might be taking time off.
>
> On the other hand it would be better if new series could mature in this
> quiet period, so there would be less work after rc1. But the key to making
> that possible I think is to feel less urgency/being overwhelmed also in the
> non-quiet period (rc1-rc5/6). Then it's should be less necessary to take
> time off during the quiet period. So hopefully we'll get there through
> involving more reviewers, and by having more submaintainers agency.

Yeah I sympathise with that.

But until we for-sure have <you know what :))> signoff, I worry about the risk
of series 'just being taken' at -rc1 because it maybe seems easier to do that,
and then we have a series from 5 weeks ago you forgot about suddenly crop up.

So I guess the more nuanced take I have is:

Once we have a robust set up end-to-end _that can handle_ having series that are
deferred to next cycle without risk of things getting mixed up - then that makes
sense, yes.

But while there's still a bit of uncertainty around that, then I'd rather not.

But I think if people DO just resend their stuff in -rc1 then we're OK and it
addresses my concerns.

One thing we could do here is to tag series appropriately like:

[PATCH v7.2] 00/42

To make it clear where it's intended to head to.

P.S. Having the 'quiet period' REALLY REALLY helps. So thanks for that Andrew!

>
> Vlastimil

Thanks, Lorenzo


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-10 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-02 18:08 [PATCH v3 0/4] mm: improve large folio readahead and alignment for exec memory Usama Arif
2026-04-02 18:08 ` Usama Arif
2026-04-02 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: bypass mmap_miss heuristic for VM_EXEC readahead Usama Arif
2026-04-02 18:08   ` Usama Arif
2026-04-02 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] mm: use tiered folio allocation " Usama Arif
2026-04-02 18:08   ` Usama Arif
2026-04-13 11:03   ` Jan Kara
2026-04-13 11:03     ` Jan Kara
2026-04-13 11:48     ` Usama Arif
2026-04-13 11:48       ` Usama Arif
2026-04-02 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] elf: align ET_DYN base for PTE coalescing and PMD mapping Usama Arif
2026-04-02 18:08   ` Usama Arif
2026-04-02 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] mm: align file-backed mmap to exec folio order in thp_get_unmapped_area Usama Arif
2026-04-02 18:08   ` Usama Arif
2026-04-10 11:03 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] mm: improve large folio readahead and alignment for exec memory Usama Arif
2026-04-10 11:55   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-10 11:57     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-10 12:19       ` Usama Arif
2026-04-10 12:24         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-04-10 13:29           ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-04-10 13:50             ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2026-04-10 14:02           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-10 12:05     ` Usama Arif
2026-04-10 12:13       ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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