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From: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
To: "Michel Dänzer" <michel.daenzer@mailbox.org>
Cc: "Hamza Mahfooz" <someguy@effective-light.com>,
	"Mario Limonciello" <mario.limonciello@amd.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Harry Wentland" <harry.wentland@amd.com>,
	"Leo Li" <sunpeng.li@amd.com>,
	"Rodrigo Siqueira" <siqueira@igalia.com>,
	"Alex Deucher" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"Alex Hung" <alex.hung@amd.com>, "Wayne Lin" <Wayne.Lin@amd.com>,
	"Aurabindo Pillai" <aurabindo.pillai@amd.com>,
	"Ivan Lipski" <ivan.lipski@amd.com>,
	"Timur Kristóf" <timur.kristof@gmail.com>,
	"Dominik Kaszewski" <dominik.kaszewski@amd.com>,
	amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] drm: introduce KMS recovery mechanism
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2026 19:28:43 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aeJfu0CQwMGEsidC@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <07072379-32c8-4912-8539-7fa590abf544@mailbox.org>

On Fri, Apr 17, 2026 at 06:08:05PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On 2/20/26 10:09, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > On 2/20/26 09:42, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> >> On 2/18/26 10:22, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> >>> On 2/18/26 01:45, Hamza Mahfooz wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2026 at 10:28:13AM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> >>>>> On 2/14/26 23:16, Hamza Mahfooz wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sat, Feb 14, 2026 at 03:02:49PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In principle it's possible to do (the equivalent of) a modeset with the current state for all CRTCs, no need to do it separately per CRTC.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> AFAIK that is what the uevent is already doing (unless I'm mistaken).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is about just doing a full modeset, which isn't something user space can do in response to a wedged event.
> >>>>
> >>>> I was referring to what compositors are doing in response to
> >>>> `drm_kms_helper_hotplug_event()`. Perhaps, the enum constants should be
> >>>> renamed, since the forced modeset is actually sent when the current
> >>>> reset phase is DRM_KMS_RESET_NONE (the phase is updated before sending
> >>>> out the event though).
> >>>
> >>> Ah, you're talking about the drm_kms_helper_hotplug_event call in drm_atomic_helper_wait_for_flip_done (I thought "uevent" referred to drm_dev_wedged_event in patch 2).
> >>>
> >>> I don't know about other compositors, but I don't think mutter will do a modeset in response to a hotplug event if no KMS state changed (because some monitors can generate spurious hotplug events).
> >>
> >> [...]
> > 
> > [...], a reason why the kernel can't just do a modeset itself occurred to me: A modeset might affect other CRTCs than the ones affected by the timed-out commit, which could interact badly with other pending commits affecting those other CRTCs.
> 
> In a different thread, Ville (added to Cc) said this shouldn't be an issue.
> 
> In which case this would seem like the simplest solution.

Yeah, so extra blocking commits will just make everything (including
subsequent non-blocking commits) block on the modeset mutexes before
the -EBUSY check even happens.

On a somewhat relatd note, some time ago I proposed making blocking
commits also do the commit_tail part locklessly. But realizing that
something might depend on the current not-actually-nonblocking commit
semantics I was careful to preserve that even while dropping the locks:
https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20220916163331.6849-1-ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com/

-- 
Ville Syrjälä
Intel

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-17 16:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-12 23:08 [PATCH v3 1/2] drm: introduce KMS recovery mechanism Hamza Mahfooz
2026-02-12 23:09 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] drm/amd/display: add vendor specific reset Hamza Mahfooz
2026-02-18  9:34   ` Christian König
2026-02-13  0:18 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] drm: introduce KMS recovery mechanism Mario Limonciello
2026-02-13 19:35   ` Hamza Mahfooz
2026-02-14 14:02     ` Michel Dänzer
2026-02-14 22:16       ` Hamza Mahfooz
2026-02-16  9:28         ` Michel Dänzer
2026-02-18  0:45           ` Hamza Mahfooz
2026-02-18  9:22             ` Michel Dänzer
2026-02-20  8:42               ` Michel Dänzer
2026-02-20  9:09                 ` Michel Dänzer
2026-02-20 14:08                   ` Michel Dänzer
2026-04-17 16:08                   ` Michel Dänzer
2026-04-17 16:28                     ` Ville Syrjälä [this message]
2026-02-18  9:31 ` Christian König

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