From: James Clark <james.clark@linaro.org>
To: Mike Leach <mike.leach@linaro.org>,
Ganapatrao Kulkarni <gankulkarni@os.amperecomputing.com>
Cc: Leo Yan <leo.yan@arm.com>,
scclevenger@os.amperecomputing.com, acme@redhat.com,
coresight@lists.linaro.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, darren@os.amperecomputing.com,
james.clark@arm.com, suzuki.poulose@arm.com, Al.Grant@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] perf scripts python arm-cs-trace-disasm.py: Skip disasm if address continuity is broken
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:35:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <af15ce5e-2344-4537-aace-ea3615d9607e@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ9a7VjWKX-ugfM3VE6_ZfSooc7MHOFEWe=S_jAGHK+gyFUgfQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 28/08/2024 10:33 am, Mike Leach wrote:
> Hi James,
>
> On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 at 10:03, James Clark <james.clark@linaro.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19/08/2024 11:59 am, Mike Leach wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> A new branch of OpenCSD is available - ocsd-consistency-checks-1.5.4-rc1
>>>
>>> Testing I managed to do confirms the N atom on unconditional branches
>>> appear to work. I do not have a test case for the range
>>> discontinuities.
>>>
>>> The checks are enabled using operation flags on decoder creation. See
>>> the docs for details.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> I tested the new OpenCSD and I don't see the error anymore in the
>> disassembly script. I'm not sure if we need to go any further and add
>> the backwards check, it looks like just a later symptom and the checks
>> that you've added already prevent it.
>>
>
> The OCSD_OPFLG_CHK_RANGE_CONTINUE is the backwards address check - at
> least as so far as is possible in OpenCSD.
> What it checks is if the next range after a not taken branch starts at
> the end address of the previous range. However this check is cancelled
> if there are other packets that intervene - e.g. trace on / exceptions
> / anything that might imply a discontinuity.
>
> The other caveat is that I did not have an example to see if the code
> could actually get triggered - though I will go back and manually
> trigger it in the debugger just to test functional correctness.
>
> If you are still seeing backwards addresses after these changes then I
> am not sure where they are coming from. It may be there is a missing
> discontinuity somewhere that is not being flagged.
I tracked down this issue, so there are two issues now:
#1 Using vmlinux which is a bad image, but is
fixed by your OpenCSD bad image detection changes.
#2 With Ganapat's kcore which should be the correct image, the issue
is in Perf. There is a bug in the handling of a full packet_queue
resulting in it setting the previous branch destination rather than
the next one for the last sample in the queue.
I should be able to send a patch for this. I'll also try to add a test
because this decode script seems like a good place to catch bugs.
>
> The other alternative that does occur to me now - thinking about
> incorrect images, is if we incorrectly associate an atom with a direct
> branch rather than an indirect branch.
> For a direct branch the decoder will calculate the target and carry on
> - not looking for an address update as it is not needed. Then when the
> address update does arrive, it is used as a latest address and the
> range address will be updated.
Yeah this is the backwards address issue I was thinking of, but with the
other OpenCSD changes I don't think there is an example of it, so we can
probably hold off for now. Especially if it's difficult to test for.
>
> Unfortunately this would be difficult to test for - the decoder is
> written to assume good trace and correct images - adding in code to
> try to remember previous state and judge if something is wrong,
> without getting false positives is difficult. It adds code complexity
> that is not necessary for well behaved clients!
>
>> If you release a new version I can send the perf patch. I was going to
>> use these flags if that looks right to you? As far as I know that's the
>> set that can be always on and won't fail on bad hardware?
>>
>
> That set of flags is fine -
>
>> I also assumed that ETM4_OPFLG_PKTDEC_AA64_OPCODE_CHK can be given even
>> for etmv3 and it's just a nop?
>>
>
> It is safe - as there is no flag for ETMv3 in the same slot.
> Effectively decode flags have a common set of bits and decoder
> specific set of bits that overlap for each decoder. We have not
> really needed anything for ETMv3 to date, and I don't expect that to
> change.
>
>
> I'll get the new version released by the end of the week. I am off on
> sabbatical for a month after that so any further investigation /
> changes will have to wait
>
> Regards
>
> Mike
>
>
>> diff --git a/tools/perf/util/cs-etm-decoder/cs-etm-decoder.c b/tools/perf/util/cs-etm-decoder/cs-etm-decoder.c
>> index e917985bbbe6..90967fd807e6 100644
>> --- a/tools/perf/util/cs-etm-decoder/cs-etm-decoder.c
>> +++ b/tools/perf/util/cs-etm-decoder/cs-etm-decoder.c
>> @@ -685,9 +685,14 @@ cs_etm_decoder__create_etm_decoder(struct cs_etm_decoder_params *d_params,
>> return 0;
>>
>> if (d_params->operation == CS_ETM_OPERATION_DECODE) {
>> + int decode_flags = OCSD_CREATE_FLG_FULL_DECODER;
>> +#ifdef OCSD_OPFLG_N_UNCOND_DIR_BR_CHK
>> + decode_flags |= OCSD_OPFLG_N_UNCOND_DIR_BR_CHK | OCSD_OPFLG_CHK_RANGE_CONTINUE |
>> + ETM4_OPFLG_PKTDEC_AA64_OPCODE_CHK;
>> +#endif
>> if (ocsd_dt_create_decoder(decoder->dcd_tree,
>> decoder->decoder_name,
>> - OCSD_CREATE_FLG_FULL_DECODER,
>> + decode_flags,
>> trace_config, &csid))
>> return -1;
>>
>>> On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 at 16:20, James Clark <james.clark@linaro.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 09/08/2024 3:13 pm, Mike Leach wrote:
>>>>> Hi James
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 at 10:32, James Clark <james.clark@linaro.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 07/08/2024 5:48 pm, Leo Yan wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/7/2024 3:53 PM, James Clark wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A minor suggestion: if the discussion is too long, please delete the
>>>>>>> irrelevant message ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --- a/tools/perf/scripts/python/arm-cs-trace-disasm.py
>>>>>>>>> +++ b/tools/perf/scripts/python/arm-cs-trace-disasm.py
>>>>>>>>> @@ -257,6 +257,11 @@ def process_event(param_dict):
>>>>>>>>> print("Stop address 0x%x is out of range [ 0x%x .. 0x%x
>>>>>>>>> ] for dso %s" % (stop_addr, int(dso_start), int(dso_end), dso))
>>>>>>>>> return
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> + if (stop_addr < start_addr):
>>>>>>>>> + if (options.verbose == True):
>>>>>>>>> + print("Packet Dropped, Discontinuity detected
>>>>>>>>> [stop_add:0x%x start_addr:0x%x ] for dso %s" % (stop_addr, start_addr,
>>>>>>>>> dso))
>>>>>>>>> + return
>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suppose my only concern with this is that it hides real errors and
>>>>>>>> Perf shouldn't be outputting samples that go backwards. Considering that
>>>>>>>> fixing this in OpenCSD and Perf has a much wider benefit I think that
>>>>>>>> should be the ultimate goal. I'm putting this on my todo list for now
>>>>>>>> (including Steve's merging idea).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the perf's util/cs-etm.c file, it handles DISCONTINUITY with:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> case CS_ETM_DISCONTINUITY:
>>>>>>> /*
>>>>>>> * The trace is discontinuous, if the previous packet is
>>>>>>> * instruction packet, set flag PERF_IP_FLAG_TRACE_END
>>>>>>> * for previous packet.
>>>>>>> */
>>>>>>> if (prev_packet->sample_type == CS_ETM_RANGE)
>>>>>>> prev_packet->flags |= PERF_IP_FLAG_BRANCH |
>>>>>>> PERF_IP_FLAG_TRACE_END;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am wandering if OpenCSD has passed the correct info so Perf decoder can
>>>>>>> detect the discontinuity. If yes, then the flag 'PERF_IP_FLAG_TRACE_END' will
>>>>>>> be set (it is a general flag in branch sample), then we can consider use it in
>>>>>>> the python script to handle discontinuous data.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No OpenCSD isn't passing the correct info here. Higher up in the thread
>>>>>> I suggested an OpenCSD patch that makes it detect the error earlier and
>>>>>> fixes the issue. It also needs to output a discontinuity when the
>>>>>> address goes backwards. So two fixes and then the script works without
>>>>>> modifications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Which address is going backwards here? - OpenCSD generates trace
>>>>> ranges only by walking forwards from the last known address till it
>>>>> hits a branch. Unless this wraps round 0x000000 this will never result
>>>>> in a backwards address as far as I can see.
>>>>> Do you have an example dump with OpenCSD outputting a range packet
>>>>> with backwards addresses?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>> The example I have I think is something like this:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Start address / trace on
>>>> 2. E
>>>> 3. Output range
>>>> ...
>>>> 4. Periodic address update
>>>> ...
>>>> 5. E
>>>> 6. Output range
>>>>
>>>> If decode has gone wrong (but undetectably) between steps 1 and 3. Then
>>>> the next steps still output a second range based on the last periodic
>>>> address received. (I think it might not necessarily have to be a
>>>> periodic address but could also be indirect address packet?). Perf
>>>> converts the ranges into branch samples by taking the end of the first
>>>> range and beginning of the second range. Then the disassembly script
>>>> converts those samples into ranges again by taking the source and
>>>> destination of the last two branch samples.
>>>>
>>>> The original issue that Ganapat saw was that the periodic address causes
>>>> OpenCSD to put the source address of the second range somewhere before
>>>> the first one, even though it didn't output a branch or discontinuity
>>>> that would explain how it got there.
>>>>
>>>> But yes you're right the ranges themselves always go forwards from the
>>>> point of view of their own start and end addresses.
>>>>
>>>> I thought it might be possible for OpenCSD to check against the last
>>>> range output? Although I wasn't sure if maybe it's actually valid to do
>>>> a backwards jump like that without the trace on/off packets with address
>>>> filtering or something?
>>>>
>>>> The root cause is still the incorrect image, but I think this check
>>>> along with the other direct branch check should make it pretty difficult
>>>> for people to make the mistake.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
> --
> Mike Leach
> Principal Engineer, ARM Ltd.
> Manchester Design Centre. UK
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-29 13:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-19 9:26 [PATCH] perf scripts python arm-cs-trace-disasm.py: Skip disasm if address continuity is broken Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2024-07-19 14:39 ` James Clark
2024-07-22 10:02 ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2024-07-23 13:10 ` James Clark
2024-07-23 15:26 ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2024-07-23 15:46 ` James Clark
2024-07-24 6:38 ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2024-07-24 14:45 ` James Clark
2024-08-01 10:00 ` James Clark
2024-08-01 10:28 ` Al Grant
2024-08-01 11:26 ` James Clark
2024-08-01 11:58 ` Al Grant
2024-08-01 14:58 ` James Clark
2024-08-05 12:22 ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2024-08-05 13:59 ` James Clark
2024-08-06 7:02 ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2024-08-06 9:47 ` James Clark
2024-08-06 9:57 ` James Clark
2024-08-06 15:02 ` Steve Clevenger
2024-08-06 16:14 ` James Clark
2024-08-07 12:17 ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2024-08-07 14:53 ` James Clark
2024-08-07 16:18 ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2024-08-07 19:20 ` Leo Yan
2024-08-08 4:36 ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2024-08-08 7:42 ` Leo Yan
2024-08-08 9:21 ` James Clark
2024-08-08 10:51 ` James Clark
2024-08-08 11:14 ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2024-08-08 15:01 ` Mike Leach
2024-08-07 16:48 ` Leo Yan
2024-08-08 9:32 ` James Clark
2024-08-08 11:05 ` Leo Yan
2024-08-09 14:13 ` Mike Leach
2024-08-09 15:19 ` James Clark
2024-08-19 10:59 ` Mike Leach
2024-08-23 9:03 ` James Clark
2024-08-23 9:57 ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2024-08-23 10:36 ` James Clark
2024-08-23 10:37 ` James Clark
2024-08-30 9:58 ` James Clark
2024-09-02 6:12 ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2024-08-28 9:33 ` Mike Leach
2024-08-29 13:35 ` James Clark [this message]
2024-08-08 7:54 ` Leo Yan
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