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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
Cc: "Ritesh Harjani (IBM)" <ritesh.list@gmail.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	lsf-pc <lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Bharata B Rao <bharata@amd.com>,
	Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com>,
	Aboorva Devarajan <aboorvad@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Ojaswin Mujoo <ojaswin@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF BoF Session] Numa-Aware Placement for Page Cache Pages
Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 00:00:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <afaCICnrkTEJN562@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <afYQz3YJdWB2R-1q@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F>

On Sat, May 02, 2026 at 03:57:19PM +0100, Gregory Price wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 02:15:19PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > Ideally, no, the kernel should observe the task and get it right.
> 
> Out of curiosity, a use case i've been exploring is something like
> 
> fd = open()
> buf = mmap(fd, ...)
> mbind(buf, device_node)
> /* fault file pages directly onto device memory */

Could you be explicit what _kind_ of node you're talking about here?
My initial thought went to something like DAX where the node actually
contains persistent memory and the fd is a reference to some chunk
of that storage.  But I don't think that's what you're referring to.
You might be thinking about a presentation of DRAM over the CXL fabric.
Or you might be thinking about memory presented by a graphics card
(perhaps over CXL, perhaps some other way).  The meaning of "device
memory" has become thoroughly confused (thanks Jerome!) so I sincerely
don't know what you're talking about.

> this obviously breaks if there are concurrent accessors of said file
> with read() (filemap will just fault onto the local node - clear race).
> 
> Do you think there's a world where we can hang a mempolicy off the
> address_space via an fctrl() call with CAP_SYS_NICE?

I don't hate the idea.  Presumably we'd document that it overrides any
mempolicy applied to the process?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-05-02 23:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-30 11:33 [LSF/MM/BPF BoF Session] Numa-Aware Placement for Page Cache Pages Ritesh Harjani (IBM)
2026-04-30 13:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-30 14:43   ` Ritesh Harjani
2026-05-02 14:57   ` Gregory Price
2026-05-02 15:49     ` Gregory Price
2026-05-03 16:18       ` Ritesh Harjani
2026-05-03 23:48         ` Gregory Price
2026-05-02 23:00     ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2026-05-03 14:15       ` Gregory Price
2026-04-30 17:32 ` Gregory Price

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