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From: Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>
To: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
Cc: Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	 David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	 Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
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	 Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>,
	 Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 kvm@vger.kernel.org, Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	 Adithya Jayachandran <ajayachandra@nvidia.com>,
	Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
	 Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>,
	William Tu <witu@nvidia.com>,
	 Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>,
	Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	 David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>, Vipin Sharma <vipinsh@google.com>,
	 YiFei Zhu <zhuyifei@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 04/16] iommu: Implement device and IOMMU HW preservation
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 18:33:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <agtMUUYyc1qx6GG7@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <agsbtV4oargwX45d@google.com>

On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 02:01:25PM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
>On Thu, May 07, 2026 at 06:47:07PM +0000, Samiullah Khawaja wrote:
>> On Thu, May 07, 2026 at 10:07:43AM +0800, Baolu Lu wrote:
>> > On 4/28/26 01:56, Samiullah Khawaja wrote:
>> > > Add IOMMU ops to preserve/unpreserve a device. These can be implemented
>> > > by the IOMMU drivers that support preservation of devices that have
>> > > their IOMMU domains preserved. During device preservation the state of
>> > > the associated IOMMU is also preserved as dependency.
>> > >
>> > > Signed-off-by: Samiullah Khawaja<skhawaja@google.com>
>> > > ---
>> > >  drivers/iommu/liveupdate.c       | 162 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > >  include/linux/iommu-liveupdate.h |  33 +++++++
>> > >  include/linux/iommu.h            |  20 ++++
>> > >  3 files changed, 215 insertions(+)
>> > >
>>
>> [snip]
>> > > +
>> > > +int iommu_preserve_device(struct iommu_domain *domain,
>> > > +			  struct device *dev, u64 *preserved_state)
>> > > +{
>> > > +	struct iommu_flb_obj *flb_obj;
>> > > +	struct iommu_device_ser *device_ser;
>> > > +	struct dev_iommu *iommu;
>> > > +	struct pci_dev *pdev;
>> > > +	int ret;
>> > > +
>> > > +	if (!dev_is_pci(dev))
>> > > +		return -EOPNOTSUPP;
>> > > +
>> > > +	if (!domain->preserved_state)
>> > > +		return -EINVAL;
>> > > +
>> > > +	if (!iommu_group_dma_owner_claimed(dev->iommu_group))
>> > > +		return -EINVAL;
>> > > +
>> > > +	pdev = to_pci_dev(dev);
>> > > +	iommu = dev->iommu;
>> > > +	if (!iommu->iommu_dev->ops->preserve_device ||
>> > > +	    !iommu->iommu_dev->ops->preserve)
>> > > +		return -EOPNOTSUPP;
>>
>> I will check for unpreserve ops here also.
>
>[snip]
>
>> > > +	pdev = to_pci_dev(dev);
>> > > +	iommu = dev->iommu;
>> > > +	if (!iommu->iommu_dev->ops->unpreserve_device ||
>> > > +	    !iommu->iommu_dev->ops->unpreserve)
>> > > +		return;
>> >
>> > Is it considered a driver bug if it implements the preserve hooks but
>> > not unpreserve ones? This would at least cause a silent memory leak. How
>> > about adding a WARN like this?
>>
>> I think the preservation should not be done if the unpreserve ops are
>> not implemented by the driver. I will add these checks in the _preserve
>> functions and return EOPNOTSUPP if it is not implemented by the driver.
>> >
>> >    if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!iommu->iommu_dev->ops->unpreserve_device ||
>> >                     !iommu->iommu_dev->ops->unpreserve))
>> >        return;
>>
>> We can add this warning here also.
>
>I'd rather have the iommu device registration fail instead of solely
>relying on these WARN_ONs here. We can simply add a snippet inside
>iommu_device_register():
>
>#ifdef CONFIG_IOMMU_LIVEUPDATE
>if ((iommu->ops->preserve && !iommu->ops->unpreserve) ||
>    (!iommu->ops->preserve && iommu->ops->unpreserve)) {
>        pr_err("IOMMU: %s: Asymmetric live-update operations detected\n",
>               dev_name(iommu->dev));
>        return -EINVAL;
>}
>#endif
>
>This prevents a half-baked iommu driver from ever spinning up, completely
>eliminating the need to check for it inside the live-update session paths.
>We anyway don't support hot-pluggable liveupdate ops atm.

Hmm.. I understand your point, But I think we should let the
registration go through so the IOMMU can be used. Its just that the
liveupdate preservation will not be supported. Failing the registration
would be a big hammer that I think is not really needed.
>
>Thanks,
>Praan

Sami

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-18 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-27 17:56 [PATCH v2 00/16] iommu: Add live update state preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] liveupdate: luo_file: Add internal APIs for file preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 11:40   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 19:08     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-29 16:12       ` Ankit Soni
2026-05-29 16:36         ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] iommu: Implement IOMMU Live update FLB callbacks Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-01 21:45   ` David Matlack
2026-05-18 11:52     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 14:10       ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-05-18 15:08         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-23 13:29       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-18 12:33     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 17:20       ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 17:32         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 17:06     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] iommu: Implement IOMMU domain preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-01 22:08   ` David Matlack
2026-05-04 18:33     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 13:13   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 18:55     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 21:36       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 04/16] iommu: Implement device and IOMMU HW preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-01 22:42   ` David Matlack
2026-05-04 19:06     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07  2:07   ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-07 18:47     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 14:01       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 18:33         ` Samiullah Khawaja [this message]
2026-05-18 13:55   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 18:44     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-06-01  6:19   ` Ankit Soni
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] iommu/pages: Add APIs to preserve/unpreserve/restore iommu pages Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 14:23   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 17:22     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] iommupt: Implement preserve/unpreserve/restore callbacks Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07  2:55   ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-07 18:40     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-19 13:15   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-19 17:14     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-23 13:33   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-27 17:11     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] iommu/vt-d: Implement device and iommu preserve/unpreserve ops Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07  6:25   ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-08  2:36     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 20:32       ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-19 14:40         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-19 18:26           ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] iommu: Add APIs to get iommu and device preserved state Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-19 15:52   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-20 17:24     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] iommu/vt-d: Restore IOMMU state and reclaimed domain ids Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07  9:05   ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-07 17:35     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-19 21:46   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-20 18:02     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-20 19:59     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] iommu: Restore and reattach preserved domains to devices Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07 13:54   ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-07 16:52     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-29 16:43   ` Ankit Soni
2026-05-29 17:03     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] iommu/vt-d: preserve PASID table of preserved device Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-08  6:05   ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-11 18:45     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-12 11:32       ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-19 22:35   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-20 18:13     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] iommufd: Implement ioctl to mark HWPT for preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-19 23:05   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-20 19:50     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 13/16] iommufd: Persist iommu hardware pagetables for live update Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-20  0:00   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-20 19:40     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-22 16:01       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-22 19:29         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] iommufd: Add APIs to preserve/unpreserve a vfio cdev Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-20  0:46   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 15/16] vfio/pci: Preserve the iommufd state of the " Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-20  0:57   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-20 19:54     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 16/16] iommufd/selftest: Add test to verify iommufd preservation Samiullah Khawaja

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