From: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
To: David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 08/12] PCI: liveupdate: Inherit ACS flags in incoming preserved devices
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2026 10:49:29 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aiaeOVomxQZhoM3K@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aiXWmR-ettxin4LC@google.com>
On Sun, Jun 07, 2026 at 08:37:45PM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 08:24:06PM +0000, David Matlack wrote:
> > Inherit Access Control Services (ACS) flags on all incoming preserved
> > devices (endpoints and upstream bridges) during a Live Update.
> >
> > Inheriting ACS flags avoids changing routing rules while memory
> > transactions are in flight from preserved devices. This is also strictly
> > necessary to ensure that IOMMU group assignments do not change across
> > a Live Update for preserved devices, as changing ACS configurations can
> > split or merge IOMMU groups.
> >
> > Cache the inherited ACS controls established by the previous kernel in
> > struct pci_dev so that ACS controls do not change after a reset
> > (pci_restore_state() calls pci_enable_acs()).
> >
> > To simplify ACS inheritance, reject preserving any devices that require
> > quirks to enable ACS as those quirks would also have to take Live Update
> > into account.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>
> > ---
> > drivers/pci/liveupdate.c | 68 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > drivers/pci/liveupdate.h | 11 ++++++
> > drivers/pci/pci.c | 5 +++
> > drivers/pci/pci.h | 5 +++
> > drivers/pci/quirks.c | 7 ++++
> > include/linux/pci_liveupdate.h | 6 +++
> > 6 files changed, 102 insertions(+)
> >
>
> [...]
>
> >
> > +void pci_liveupdate_init_acs(struct pci_dev *dev)
> > +{
> > + guard(rwsem_read)(&pci_liveupdate.rwsem);
> > +
> > + if (!dev->acs_cap || !dev->liveupdate.incoming)
> > + return;
> > +
> > + pci_read_config_word(dev, dev->acs_cap + PCI_ACS_CTRL, &dev->liveupdate.acs_ctrl);
>
> I might be thinking out loud here, but as an attacker, this motivates me
> to somehow hack the EP FW to mis-report the PCI_ACS_CTRL register across
> a liveupdate to fool the incoming kernel. If the FW feeds a 0, it silently
> strips ACS protections.
Minor note here: I used "0" as an example value, I'm aware that'll
effectively disable ACS and kernel will enforce more security.
My point was that a FW exploit can meddle with the bitfields of the
ACS_CTRL to spoof and mis-report the ACS flags.
Additionally, we might give rise to use-cases that start depending on
this, for e.g. if someone wants to change ACS policies in the
new kernel, the FW may silently update these flags across a kexec.
>
> Should we also serialize ACS state in ser somehow to ensure we aren't
> fooled by something like this?
>
Thanks,
Praan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-08 10:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-22 20:23 [PATCH v6 00/12] PCI: liveupdate: PCI core support for Live Update David Matlack
2026-05-22 20:23 ` [PATCH v6 01/12] PCI: liveupdate: Set up FLB handler for the PCI core David Matlack
2026-05-22 20:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-22 21:37 ` David Matlack
2026-05-23 11:17 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-05-25 16:50 ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-05 5:41 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 02/12] PCI: liveupdate: Track outgoing preserved PCI devices David Matlack
2026-05-22 20:54 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-22 21:28 ` David Matlack
2026-06-05 6:26 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-05 6:11 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 03/12] PCI: liveupdate: Track incoming " David Matlack
2026-05-22 21:13 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-22 21:34 ` David Matlack
2026-06-06 10:08 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 04/12] PCI: liveupdate: Document driver binding responsibilities David Matlack
2026-05-25 15:35 ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-06-06 10:20 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 05/12] PCI: liveupdate: Keep bus numbers constant during Live Update David Matlack
2026-05-22 21:08 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-22 21:31 ` David Matlack
2026-06-06 11:10 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 06/12] PCI: liveupdate: Auto-preserve upstream bridges across " David Matlack
2026-06-06 22:15 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 07/12] PCI: Refactor matching logic for pci_dev_acs_ops David Matlack
2026-06-07 19:01 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 08/12] PCI: liveupdate: Inherit ACS flags in incoming preserved devices David Matlack
2026-06-07 20:37 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-08 10:49 ` Pranjal Shrivastava [this message]
2026-06-08 18:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 09/12] PCI: liveupdate: Inherit ARI Forwarding Enable on preserved bridges David Matlack
2026-05-22 21:51 ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-08 11:33 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-08 18:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 10/12] PCI: liveupdate: Freeze preservation status during shutdown David Matlack
2026-06-08 11:47 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 11/12] PCI: liveupdate: Do not disable bus mastering on preserved devices during kexec David Matlack
2026-06-08 11:58 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-22 20:24 ` [PATCH v6 12/12] Documentation: PCI: Add documentation for Live Update David Matlack
2026-06-08 12:01 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
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