From: Baoquan He <baoquan.he@linux.dev>
To: Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>
Cc: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, david@kernel.org, ljs@kernel.org,
liam@infradead.org, vbabka@kernel.org, rppt@kernel.org,
surenb@google.com, mhocko@suse.com, chrisl@kernel.org,
kasong@tencent.com, shikemeng@huaweicloud.com, nphamcs@gmail.com,
youngjun.park@lge.com, jp.kobryn@linux.dev, usama.arif@linux.dev
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/3] mm: avoid unnecessary lru drain for wp_can_reuse_anon_folio()
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2026 11:40:29 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ait_rZUchteKu9-p@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4yFgcvpTAZ_YV73+U=BEnOiSxaFtGNFpbf0DWBkVcOQ3Q@mail.gmail.com>
On 06/12/26 at 09:57am, Barry Song wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2026 at 9:08 AM Baoquan He <baoquan.he@linux.dev> wrote:
> >
> > On 06/11/26 at 11:17am, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 11:09:43AM -0700, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 06:51:22PM +0800, Barry Song (Xiaomi) wrote:
> > > > > We always unconditionally drain the LRU before retrying anon folio
> > > > > reuse in wp_can_reuse_anon_folio(). Instead, assume !LRU anon folios
> > > > > are in lru_cache, and use the refcount to avoid many unnecessary LRU
> > > > > drains.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Barry Song (Xiaomi) <baohua@kernel.org>
> > > > > ---
> > > > > mm/memory.c | 8 +++++++-
> > > > > 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
> > > > > index 56be920c56d7..487a34377a7b 100644
> > > > > --- a/mm/memory.c
> > > > > +++ b/mm/memory.c
> > > > > @@ -4193,12 +4193,18 @@ static bool wp_can_reuse_anon_folio(struct folio *folio,
> > > > > */
> > > > > if (folio_test_ksm(folio) || folio_ref_count(folio) > 3)
> > > > > return false;
> > > > > - if (!folio_test_lru(folio))
> > > > > + if (!folio_test_lru(folio)) {
> > > > > + /*
> > > > > + * Assume folio is on lru_cache and holds a cache reference.
> > > > > + */
> > > > > + if (folio_ref_count(folio) > 2 + folio_test_swapcache(folio))
> > > > > + return false;
> > > >
> > > > In your experiments, how much amount of drains were reduced due to this specific
> > > > check?
> > > >
> > > > I wonder if that data can motivate to introduce lru_add_drain_folio(folio) which
> > > > only drains if the given folio is in the local lru_add cache.
> > >
> > > Actually if we can peek into lru_add cache and folio_ref_count(folio) is exactly
> > > equal to (2 + folio_test_swapcache(folio)) and folio is not on LRU then we can
> > > just reuse folio if it is in lru_add cache without draining, right?
> >
> > Sounds more reasonable if we can only touch the wanted folio if it
> > exists in pvec. Believe it can improve efficiency more than the
> > current patch.
> >
>
> Technically yes, but in practice it seems quite hard. As I explained
> to Shakeel, we don't have an easy way to determine whether a folio is
> sitting in the lru_cache. !folio_test_lru(folio) only tells us that
> the folio may either have been removed from the LRU or still be
> sitting in the lru_cache; it does not distinguish between the two.
> Unless we want to scan the lru_cache to look up the folio, we may need
> a dedicated folio flag, similar to PG_lru, to indicate lru_cache
> membership -
> I guess people would be quite unhappy about adding a new flag?
>
> On the other hand, the folio may be sitting in the lru_cache of
> another CPU, which the current drain cannot flush. As things stand
> today, the drain only succeeds if the folio happens to be queued on
> the current CPU's lru_cache, giving it roughly a 1/nr_cpus chance of
> working. drain_all would clearly be too expensive to avoid.
BAM, sitting in other CPU's pvec is a real barrier. If it's in local
cpu, it definitely deserves a try as Shakeel said, when refcount = (2 +
folio_test_swapcache(folio)).
Then the current solution is optimal at present.
>
> So another possibility is to drop this drain as well. The folio can
> be released later, at the cost of missing some opportunities for
> reuse.
>
> Best Regards
> Barry
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-12 3:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-11 10:51 [RFC PATCH 0/3] mm: drop redundant lru_add_drain in anon folio reuse paths Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-06-11 10:51 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] mm: avoid unnecessary lru drain for wp_can_reuse_anon_folio() Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-06-11 18:09 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-11 18:17 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-12 1:08 ` Baoquan He
2026-06-12 1:57 ` Barry Song
2026-06-12 3:40 ` Baoquan He [this message]
2026-06-12 1:35 ` Barry Song
2026-06-12 4:48 ` Barry Song
2026-06-12 3:41 ` Baoquan He
2026-06-11 10:51 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] mm: drop stale folio_ref_count()==1 check in do_swap_page reuse logic Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-06-11 18:12 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-12 1:18 ` Baoquan He
2026-06-11 10:51 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] mm: entirely remove lru_add_drain in do_swap_page Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-06-11 18:40 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-12 1:39 ` Baoquan He
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