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From: "Oscar Salvador (SUSE)" <osalvador@kernel.org>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Andreas Larsson <andreas@gaisler.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mm: cleanup clear_not_present_full_ptes() and rename to clear_non_present_ptes()
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2026 12:36:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aivhRywnNOOCjhTD@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e9412b6c-ed3c-4c0c-977f-fc019297d875@kernel.org>

On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 06:14:34PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> Usually, you want to get access and dirty bits, and that requires get_and_clear
> semantics. I suspect there are some more details to the low-level helpers.
> 
> > 
> > I guess that such a renaming would have to first audit that all current
> > users obey that? Othen than that, is there anything else stopping us
> > from doing so?
> 
> When I last skimmed over some users, they were all dealing with non-present
> entries. (mremap.c, rmap.c, mpreotect.c, memory.c, madvise.c)
> 
> But yes, we would have to audit and make sure that's the case.

So, I quickly checked some users.

As you mentioned, users from rmap.c, mremap.c, memory.c and madvise.c
deal with non-present ptes.
Hugetlb via huge_pte_clear does it for uffd markers or explicit !pte_present, so
that is fine as well.
That is wrt. generic code.

Now, moving to arch-specific code, things look a bit funny.

E.g: bpf:

arena_free_pages()-> apply_range_clear_cb()

apply_range_clear_cb() only calls pte_clear for present ptes.

Then, e.g: remove_pagetable() from powerpc and and x86 end up calling pte_clear
(for present ptes), but that is fine because we are just nuking it.
And s390 has the same in modify_pte_table()



-- 
Oscar Salvador
SUSE Labs


      reply	other threads:[~2026-06-12 10:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-11 11:50 [PATCH 0/3] mm: cleanup clear_not_present_full_ptes() David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-11 11:50 ` [PATCH 1/3] sparc/mm: drop custom pte_clear_not_present_full() David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-11 11:50 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: drop pte_clear_not_present_full() David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-11 13:49   ` Oscar Salvador (SUSE)
2026-06-11 14:57     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-12  9:35   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-11 11:50 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: cleanup clear_not_present_full_ptes() and rename to clear_non_present_ptes() David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-11 14:02   ` Oscar Salvador (SUSE)
2026-06-11 16:14     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-12 10:36       ` Oscar Salvador (SUSE) [this message]

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