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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Bradley Morgan <include@grrlz.net>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Feng Tang <feng.tang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Christophe Leroy <chleroy@kernel.org>,
	Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@linux.ibm.com>,
	Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] panic: use sys_info_with_filter() to avoid duplicate backtraces
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:23:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aj5TNB8cRtMNTtIT@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260625152558.7450-5-include@grrlz.net>

On Thu 2026-06-25 15:25:58, Bradley Morgan wrote:
> panic_other_cpus_shutdown() handles SYS_INFO_ALL_BT before stopping the
> other CPUs. Do not ask sys_info() to handle that bit again later in the
> panic path.
> 
> Use sys_info_with_filter() so panic_print=all_bt does not request more
> output after the CPUs are stopped.
> 
> Fixes: a9af76a78760 ("watchdog: add sys_info sysctls to dump sys info on system lockup")
> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> Signed-off-by: Bradley Morgan <include@grrlz.net>
> ---
>  kernel/panic.c | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/panic.c b/kernel/panic.c
> index 213725b612aa..eb842823df61 100644
> --- a/kernel/panic.c
> +++ b/kernel/panic.c
> @@ -680,7 +680,7 @@ void vpanic(const char *fmt, va_list args)
>  	 */
>  	atomic_notifier_call_chain(&panic_notifier_list, 0, buf);
>  
> -	sys_info(panic_print);
> +	sys_info_with_filter(panic_print, SYS_INFO_ALL_BT);

Hmm, this prevents printing backtraces from all CPUs completely.
But what if they were not printed?

They might be printed by:

static void panic_other_cpus_shutdown(bool crash_kexec)
{
	if (panic_print & SYS_INFO_ALL_BT)
		panic_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace();

[...]
}

But it checks only "panic_print" variable. It won't do anything
when (panic_print == 0).

In this case, we might still want to print the backraces when
SYS_INFO_ALL_BT is set in kernel_si_info.

>  	kmsg_dump_desc(KMSG_DUMP_PANIC, buf);

Of course, we might fix panic_other_cpus_shutdown() to check also
kernel_si_info.

But it all becomes very hairy. We have several levels:

   + watchdog-all_bt-specific option, e.g. sysctl_hardlockup_all_cpu_backtrace

   + watchdog-specific si_info preferences, e.g. hardlockup_si_mask

   + panic-specific si_info: panic_print

   + universal fallback for any layer: kernel_si_info

Now, we try to check all these variables back and forth to
trigger all backtraces or to avoid triggering them.
And it clearly does not work well and the code is more and more
hairy.

I think about another approach. The word "waterfall" comes to my mind.
Instead of checking all the settings back and forth, let's process
each setting one by one and just remember what has been done and
skip this in the next level.

All the si_info actions seems to dump a global system state.
So, it would make sense to remember the state in a global variable
even when it might be modified by more CPUs in parallel.

I am going to think more about it.

Please, do not send v4 until the discussion settles!

Best Regards,
Petr


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-26 10:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-25 15:25 [PATCH v3 0/4] sys_info: prevent duplicate backtraces Bradley Morgan
2026-06-25 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] sys_info: add helper for callers that print some sys_info on their own Bradley Morgan
2026-06-25 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] watchdog: use sys_info_with_filter() to avoid duplicate backtraces Bradley Morgan
2026-06-25 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] powerpc/watchdog: " Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26  9:42   ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-25 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] panic: " Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26 10:23   ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2026-06-26 10:27     ` Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26 12:06     ` Feng Tang
2026-06-26 12:14     ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-26 12:17       ` Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26 12:32         ` Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26 14:26           ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-26 14:35             ` Bradley Morgan
2026-06-26 14:47               ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-26 14:58                 ` Bradley Morgan

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