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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>
Cc: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
	jlayton@kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk, kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] fs/pipe: reduce pipe->mutex contention by pre-allocating outside the lock
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2026 17:30:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ajK9s-ZFviSxEoia@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGudoHG4r09syjknUo7rsZV1G01o0OGBvY3X3S8tQ0dfdSYSaQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/17, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
>
> > -static void anon_pipe_get_page_prealloc(struct anon_pipe_prealloc *prealloc,
> > +static void anon_pipe_get_page_prealloc(struct pipe_inode_info *pipe,
> > +                                       struct anon_pipe_prealloc *prealloc,
> >                                         size_t total_len)
> >  {
> >         unsigned int want, i;
> > @@ -144,6 +145,11 @@ static void anon_pipe_get_page_prealloc(struct anon_pipe_prealloc *prealloc,
> >         want = min_t(unsigned int, DIV_ROUND_UP(total_len, PAGE_SIZE),
> >                      PIPE_PREALLOC_MAX);
> >
> > +       for (i = 0; i < ARRAY_SIZE(pipe->tmp_page); i++) {
> > +               if (pipe->tmp_page[i] && !--want)
> > +                       return;
> > +       }

> As proposed this will guarantee a big write which fits fine into pages
> cached into tmp_page followed by a small write will have to resort to
> an allocation under the mutex, partially defeating the original patch.
> So you would need to add some provisions to check if you need to
> allocate something even in that case.

Yes, with the change like this, at least the "total_len <= PAGE_SIZE"
check should be revisited.

But let me repeat: I'm not sure this makes sense, and I have no idea how
it would impact performance in "real" workloads.

In particular, I don't know if the case when another writer steals the
pages from ->tmp_page[] is actually "unlikely".

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-17 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-24 14:44 [PATCH v3 0/2] fs/pipe: reduce pipe->mutex contention by pre-allocating outside the lock Breno Leitao
2026-05-24 14:44 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] fs/pipe: pre-allocate pages outside pipe->mutex in anon_pipe_write Breno Leitao
2026-05-24 14:44 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] selftests/pipe: add pipe_bench microbenchmark Breno Leitao
2026-05-28 12:34 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] fs/pipe: reduce pipe->mutex contention by pre-allocating outside the lock Christian Brauner
2026-06-16 20:47 ` Josh Triplett
2026-06-17  8:52   ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-06-17 10:23     ` Breno Leitao
2026-06-17 11:59       ` Mateusz Guzik
2026-06-17 14:37         ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-06-17 14:47           ` Breno Leitao
2026-06-17 14:57             ` Mateusz Guzik
2026-06-17 15:26               ` Breno Leitao
2026-06-17 15:45             ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-06-17 14:51           ` Mateusz Guzik
2026-06-17 15:30             ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2026-06-17 16:04         ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-06-17 15:01       ` Mateusz Guzik

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