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From: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>
To: Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.com>
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org, hans@jjverkuil.nl,
	laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com,
	Prabhakar <prabhakar.csengg@gmail.com>,
	"Kate Hsuan" <hpa@redhat.com>,
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	"Christophe JAILLET" <christophe.jaillet@wanadoo.fr>,
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	"Naushir Patuck" <naush@raspberrypi.com>,
	"Yan, Dongcheng" <dongcheng.yan@intel.com>,
	"Stefan Klug" <stefan.klug@ideasonboard.com>,
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	"André Apitzsch" <git@apitzsch.eu>,
	"Heimir Thor Sverrisson" <heimir.sverrisson@gmail.com>,
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	"Mehdi Djait" <mehdi.djait@linux.intel.com>,
	"Ricardo Ribalda Delgado" <ribalda@kernel.org>,
	"Hans de Goede" <hansg@kernel.org>,
	"Jacopo Mondi" <jacopo.mondi@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Tomi Valkeinen" <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com>,
	"David Plowman" <david.plowman@raspberrypi.com>,
	"Yu, Ong Hock" <ong.hock.yu@intel.com>,
	"Ng, Khai Wen" <khai.wen.ng@intel.com>,
	"Jai Luthra" <jai.luthra@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Rishikesh Donadkar" <r-donadkar@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 03/10] media: imx219: Account rate_factor in setting upper exposure limit
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2026 13:40:17 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ajPLEfuiCN9R1ben@kekkonen.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPY8ntDPvDdj6vSVRUsTmC9tXmy8xNATrrbyqDr7DRU1NiiDQQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Dave,

On Mon, Jun 08, 2026 at 04:42:44PM +0100, Dave Stevenson wrote:
> Hi Sakari
> 
> On Sun, 7 Jun 2026 at 22:54, Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > The rate_factor multiplier is used to multiply a few values in the
> > sensor's timing configuration and the exposure time is one of them. This
> > also needs to be taken into account in exposure time margin: multiply it
> > by rate_factor so that sensor's exposure time margin is respected.
> 
> Testing the 1640x1232 mode with FRM_LENGTH_A set to 0x288 (79.07fps),
> I can write register 0x15a (COARSE_INTEGRATION_TIME_A) with values up
> to and including 0x284 without it affecting the output frame rate, and
> without image corruption.
> With IMX219_EXPOSURE_OFFSET being 4, the current code implements
> exactly those limits, so why do you believe the offset should be
> increased?

I agree with the upper exposure time limit (with FRM_LENGTH_A set to 0x288)
and the margin above but the issue is that the driver only implements
these limits when rate_factor is 1.

The margin is subtracted from the frame length to calculate the upper
exposure limit, but as the frame length in lines an the exposure values are
divided by rate_factor, the margin gets divided, too, resulting the
effective margin of 2.

I tested that setting the exposure value to higher than FRM_LENGTH_A -
margin increases the frame time. This shouldn't be the case i.e. it's a
driver bug.

> 
> To my mind section 5-5 Frame Rate Calculation Formula of the datasheet
> is fairly clear with
> [ In the case of (frame_length_lines - 4 > coarse_integration_time) ]:
> Frame_Length = frame_length_lines
> [ In the case of (frame_length_lines - 4 < coarse_integration_time) ]:
> Frame_Length = coarse_integration_time + 4
> 
> The register FRM_LENGTH_A (0x160) being in units of 2 lines doesn't
> change that calculation.

-- 
Kind regards,

Sakari Ailus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-18 10:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-07 21:53 [PATCH v5 00/10] Metadata series preparation Sakari Ailus
2026-07-01 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 00/16] " Sakari Ailus
2026-06-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v5 01/10] media: Documentation: Improve pixel rate calculation documentation Sakari Ailus
2026-06-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v5 02/10] media: imx219: Scale the vblank limits according to rate_factor Sakari Ailus
2026-06-08  7:26   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-06-08 15:29   ` Dave Stevenson
2026-06-08 21:28     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-06-09  5:58       ` Jai Luthra
2026-06-09  6:01         ` Jai Luthra
2026-06-10 11:48           ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-06-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v5 03/10] media: imx219: Account rate_factor in setting upper exposure limit Sakari Ailus
2026-06-07 22:05   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-08  9:06   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-06-08 13:44     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-06-08 15:42   ` Dave Stevenson
2026-06-08 21:38     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-06-18 10:40     ` Sakari Ailus [this message]
2026-07-02 17:04       ` Dave Stevenson
2026-07-03 21:36         ` Sakari Ailus
2026-06-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v5 04/10] media: imx219: Make control handler ops for PIXEL_RATE NULL Sakari Ailus
2026-06-08  7:36   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-06-08  7:53     ` Jacopo Mondi
2026-06-08  8:03       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-06-08  8:14         ` Sakari Ailus
2026-06-08  8:24           ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-06-08 10:21             ` Sakari Ailus
2026-06-08 10:27               ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-06-08 13:47                 ` Sakari Ailus
2026-06-08 14:42                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-06-09  6:29                     ` Jacopo Mondi
2026-06-09 14:55                       ` Hans Verkuil
2026-06-09 15:15                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-06-09 15:56                           ` Dave Stevenson
2026-06-09 16:07                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-06-09 16:44                               ` Dave Stevenson
2026-06-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v5 05/10] media: imx219: Rename "binning" as "bin_hv" in imx219_set_pad_format Sakari Ailus
2026-06-08 15:45   ` Dave Stevenson
2026-06-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v5 06/10] media: imx219: Fix vertical blanking and exposure for analogue binning Sakari Ailus
2026-06-07 22:07   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-08  6:58   ` Jacopo Mondi
2026-06-08  9:10     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-06-08 14:07       ` Sakari Ailus
2026-06-08 16:23         ` Jai Luthra
2026-06-08 21:52           ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-06-10  8:27             ` Sakari Ailus
2026-06-10  8:45               ` Jai Luthra
2026-06-08 10:31     ` Jai Luthra
2026-06-08 11:19       ` Jai Luthra
2026-06-10  9:47         ` Sakari Ailus
2026-06-10 10:29           ` Jai Luthra
2026-06-10 10:57             ` Jai Luthra
2026-06-11  8:58             ` Sakari Ailus
2026-06-08 18:06       ` Dave Stevenson
2026-06-09 16:48         ` Jai Luthra
2026-06-10 10:30           ` Sakari Ailus
2026-06-10 11:59             ` Jai Luthra
2026-06-10 10:13         ` Sakari Ailus
2026-06-10 16:00           ` Jai Luthra
2026-06-08 21:01       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-06-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v5 07/10] media: Improve enable_streams and disable_streams documentation Sakari Ailus
2026-06-08  9:29   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-06-08 14:28     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-06-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v5 08/10] media: v4l2-subdev: Move subdev client capabilities into a new struct Sakari Ailus
2026-06-08  9:34   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-06-08 14:35     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-06-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v5 09/10] media: v4l2-subdev: Add v4l2_subdev_get_fmt_ci() Sakari Ailus
2026-06-08  7:48   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-06-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v5 10/10] media: v4l2-subdev: Add struct v4l2_subdev_client_info pointer to pad ops Sakari Ailus
2026-06-08 10:16   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-06-28 14:20     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-07-01 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 01/16] media: Documentation: Improve pixel rate calculation documentation Sakari Ailus
2026-07-01 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 02/16] media: imx219: Account rate_factor in setting upper exposure limit Sakari Ailus
2026-07-02 17:10   ` Dave Stevenson
2026-07-01 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 03/16] media: imx219: Account for rate_factor in control steps Sakari Ailus
2026-07-02 17:09   ` Dave Stevenson
2026-07-01 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 04/16] media: imx219: The horizontal blanking step is 8 Sakari Ailus
2026-07-02 13:57   ` Dave Stevenson
2026-07-01 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 05/16] media: imx219: Rename "binning" as "bin_hv" in imx219_set_pad_format Sakari Ailus
2026-07-01 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 06/16] media: Improve enable_streams and disable_streams documentation Sakari Ailus
2026-07-01 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 07/16] media: v4l2-subdev: Move subdev client capabilities into a new struct Sakari Ailus
2026-07-01 16:17   ` Frank Li
2026-07-01 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 08/16] media: v4l2-subdev: Move op check to sub-device op wrappers Sakari Ailus
2026-07-01 16:37   ` Frank Li
2026-07-04 12:11     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-07-01 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 09/16] media: v4l2-subdev: Always call get_fmt() if set_fmt() is unavailable Sakari Ailus
2026-07-01 16:42   ` Frank Li
2026-07-04 12:15     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-07-01 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 10/16] media: rdacm20: Don't assign set_fmt() Sakari Ailus
2026-07-01 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 11/16] " Sakari Ailus
2026-07-01 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 12/16] media: gc0310: " Sakari Ailus
2026-07-01 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 13/16] media: v4l2-subdev: Add v4l2_subdev_call_ci_state_{active,try} Sakari Ailus
2026-07-01 16:57   ` Frank Li
2026-07-04 12:16     ` Sakari Ailus
2026-07-01 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 14/16] media: mt9m001: Pass sub-device state to set_selection() callback Sakari Ailus
2026-07-01 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 15/16] media: cvs: Drop comments on sub-device operations Sakari Ailus
2026-07-01 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 15/15] media: v4l2-subdev: Add struct v4l2_subdev_client_info pointer to pad ops Sakari Ailus
2026-07-01 17:00   ` Frank Li
2026-07-01 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 16/16] " Sakari Ailus
2026-07-01 17:01   ` Frank Li

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