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From: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Frederick Mayle <fmayle@google.com>,
	 Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-hotfixses] Revert "mm: limit filemap_fault readahead to VMA boundaries"
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2026 18:18:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ajV49Fyogfa6aIjy@pedro-suse> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ajV0TbwEyaKMzoa6@lucifer>

On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 06:07:30PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> +cc Suren, Pedro, David - I messed up the cc on this patch.
> 
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 05:52:38PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 09:37:11AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 12:28:51 +0100 Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > This reverts commit 7b32f64bc512b40b268776c5ac4d354b325b3197.
> > > >
> > > > This patch caused a significant performance regression, so revert it, and
> > > > we can determine whether the approach is sensible or not moving forwards,
> > > > and if so how to avoid this.
> > > >
> > > > There was a merge conflict with commit de97ae6222c1 ("mm/readahead: no
> > > > PG_readahead on EOF"), care was taken to ensure that the revert retained the
> > > > behaviour of this patch and cleanly reverts commit 7b32f64bc512 ("mm: limit
> > > > filemap_fault readahead to VMA boundaries") only.
> > >
> > > I'm a little conflicted here.
> > >
> > > 7b32f64bc512 avoided readahead of "file pages outside the mapped
> > > region", which is clearly desirable (arguably a bug fix?) and we care
> 
> I wouldn't say it's a bug fix? The kernel has always done this with no reported
> bugs.
> 
> > > about performance of executable mappings.  Whereas it isn't clear that
> > > we care about whatever the heck that test case was doing.
> > >
> > > IOW, the revert might make the kernel worse, overall.
> > >
> > > If someone plans to get down and analyse that test case then come up
> > > with a new version of 7b32f64bc512 then OK.  Is there such a person?
> > >
> > > I'll park the revert in mm-unstable for now, but would prefer not to
> > > rush it in until we better understand what's going on with that test
> > > case and what can be done to address it.
> 
> As Willy points out [0], we've identified that it's a real usecase that we're
> regressing.
> 
> There's likely others too in the real world.

Yeah, the mmap usage on SVT-AV1 is a little suspicious, but I guess the
pattern may come up time and time again for people doing chunked mmap
reads. I think we need to take a closer look at this change.
> 
> This approach has also not been without debate in the past (see [1]), I think
> this patch slipped under the radar on that front a bit.

Yeah, sadly it seems like the patch _may_ need a rather substantial rework :|
So I would err on the side of caution for now and revert it as well.

-- 
Pedro

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-19 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-19 11:28 [PATCH mm-hotfixses] Revert "mm: limit filemap_fault readahead to VMA boundaries" Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-19 11:40 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-19 11:58 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-19 15:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-19 16:37 ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-19 16:52   ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-19 17:07     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-19 17:08       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-19 17:18       ` Pedro Falcato [this message]
2026-06-19 17:43         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-19 17:46           ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-19 17:52             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-19 19:26               ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-19 19:33                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan

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