From: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Jori Koolstra <jkoolstra@xs4all.nl>
Cc: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
Boris Burkov <boris@bur.io>, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>,
Carlos Maiolino <cem@kernel.org>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
David Disseldorp <ddiss@suse.de>,
Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
"Christian Brauner (Amutable)" <brauner@kernel.org>,
workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: remove the requirement for LLM attribution
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2026 11:20:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <akzSY47Rjn7TDOL6@lucifer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1778033301.182575.1783419343917@kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl>
On Tue, Jul 07, 2026 at 12:15:43PM +0200, Jori Koolstra wrote:
>
> I haven't really seen anyone opposed the following I wrote earlier:
>
> - it's more relevant to know how an LLM was used than that it was used (and the
> tag is just a quick indication of this)
> - advertising for particular corporations does not really serve any purpose to
> the community, so just say "LLM"
> - the tags may be used to prevent arguing
> - the requirement to be open about LLM use (whether by tags or whatever) makes
> it easier for maintainers (if they feel the need) to de-prioritize patches
> by someone unwilling to abide by these rules whenever the maintainer perceives
> or suspects prior undeclared LLM use. This prevents an asymmetrical situation
> of LLM slop being produced much faster that what can be reviewed.
Yup completely agree.
I just want to get something merged rather than just talk :) and so to avoid any
_possible_ argument 'keep it like it is but add a comment' is a much, much
easier sell to everybody.
Then we can follow up with anything else one we get _something useful merged_ :)
>
> Perhaps the last point is more controversial.
Not in my opinion. We're only at the beginning of this horror show and I think
far stronger measures will eventually be needed (e.g. newcomes will have to
build trust first, which sucks, but it may be the only practical solution).
>
> I would really like to adept the systemd policy text.[1] If I have time later today
> I'll try to write something up... although maybe it is too ambitious :)
>
> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/20260702-bahnen-ertappen-verspannungen-0eaaf1e3f5af@brauner/
:)
Cheers, Lorenzo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-07 10:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-02 14:32 [PATCH] Documentation: remove the requirement for LLM attribution Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 14:53 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 14:58 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:02 ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 15:07 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 14:57 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:28 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 15:36 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:44 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 15:07 ` Greg KH
2026-07-02 15:13 ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-07-02 15:20 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 18:46 ` Andreas Dilger
2026-07-03 2:57 ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-03 11:50 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-03 16:12 ` Andreas Dilger
2026-07-02 15:15 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:33 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-02 15:37 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:36 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 15:57 ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 16:13 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 16:19 ` Greg KH
2026-07-02 16:32 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-03 6:37 ` Greg KH
2026-07-03 7:23 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-03 7:30 ` Greg KH
2026-07-03 7:33 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-03 11:42 ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-03 11:53 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-03 12:04 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-06 8:44 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-02 16:48 ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 16:50 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 21:17 ` Boris Burkov
2026-07-02 23:17 ` SJ Park
2026-07-03 7:05 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-03 13:12 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-03 16:32 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-03 18:22 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-07 9:20 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-07 9:49 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-07 9:55 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-07 13:29 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-07 15:10 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-07 10:01 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-07-07 13:31 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-07 12:40 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-07 13:28 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-07 14:18 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-07 14:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-07 15:05 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-07 10:15 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-07 10:20 ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2026-07-03 18:26 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-02 23:05 ` SJ Park
2026-07-02 16:11 ` Chuck Lever
2026-07-02 16:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
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