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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Richard Chang <richardycc@google.com>,
	Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>, Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>, Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	"T . J . Mercier" <tjmercier@google.com>,
	Martin Liu <liumartin@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] mm: vmscan: abort proactive reclaim early when freezing for suspend
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2026 14:32:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <al9m9s5JpOO3S7jX@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260719222306.540829de219e12e21396d260@linux-foundation.org>

On Sun 19-07-26 22:23:06, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 04:41:03 +0000 Richard Chang <richardycc@google.com> wrote:
> 
> > Proactive reclaim (triggered via memory.reclaim or node sysfs) checks
> > for pending signals in its outer loop in user_proactive_reclaim().
> > However, the inner reclaim loops—specifically scanning cgroups in
> > shrink_many() and evicting/aging folios in try_to_shrink_lruvec()—can
> > run for a long time before returning to the outer loop, especially on
> > systems with many cgroups or large memory sizes.
> > 
> > During system suspend, the PM freezer attempts to freeze all tasks by
> > sending fake signals (setting TIF_SIGPENDING). Because the inner loops
> > do not check for pending signals, the proactive reclaim task can remain
> > stuck in kernel space for seconds, failing to enter the refrigerator in
> > a timely manner. This leads to suspend failures due to freeze timeouts,
> > a behavior observed on Android devices.
> > 
> > This latency issue is specific to proactive reclaim because of its
> > large, user-defined reclaim targets (could be gigabytes). Since commit
> > 287d5fedb377 ("mm: memcg: use larger batches for proactive reclaim"),
> > proactive reclaim uses larger decaying batch sizes (starting at 1/4 of
> > the remaining target) to maintain throughput. This keeps the task in
> > the inner reclaim loop for extended periods. In contrast, reactive
> > reclaim (global/memcg) uses small targets (SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX, typically
> > 32 pages), allowing it to return to the outer loop and check signals
> > frequently.
> 
> So 287d5fedb377 led to suspend failures on MGLRU-using kernels.
> 
> That's a regression which justifies a Fixes: and a cc:stable, don't
> people agree?

I believe this should have both Fixes: 287d5fedb377 and 94968384dde1.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-07-21 12:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-06  8:12 [PATCH] mm: vmscan: abort proactive reclaim early when freezing Richard Chang
2026-07-06 12:54 ` Barry Song
2026-07-07  8:00   ` Richard Chang
2026-07-06 23:38 ` Andrew Morton
2026-07-07 10:13   ` Richard Chang
2026-07-07  2:20 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-07-07  8:04   ` Richard Chang
2026-07-07 18:28     ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-07-07 19:48 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-07-08  4:14   ` Richard Chang
2026-07-08  4:54     ` Shakeel Butt
2026-07-08  7:24       ` Richard Chang
2026-07-08 15:47         ` Shakeel Butt
2026-07-08 16:03           ` T.J. Mercier
2026-07-08 16:51             ` Shakeel Butt
2026-07-09  7:22               ` [PATCH v2] mm: vmscan: abort proactive reclaim early when freezing for suspend Richard Chang
2026-07-09 12:06                 ` Michal Hocko
2026-07-10  3:29                   ` Richard Chang
2026-07-10  6:27                     ` Michal Hocko
2026-07-14  9:00                       ` Richard Chang
2026-07-14 12:23                         ` Michal Hocko
2026-07-14 12:40                           ` Michal Hocko
2026-07-15  7:56                             ` Richard Chang
2026-07-15  8:49                               ` Michal Hocko
2026-07-15 17:47                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-07-15 19:58                                   ` Michal Hocko
2026-07-17  9:14                                     ` Richard Chang
2026-07-17 18:12                                       ` [PATCH v3] " Richard Chang
2026-07-17 18:47                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-07-20  4:37                                           ` Richard Chang
2026-07-20  4:41                                             ` [PATCH v4] " Richard Chang
2026-07-20  5:23                                               ` Andrew Morton
2026-07-20 12:04                                                 ` Richard Chang
2026-07-21 12:32                                                 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2026-07-21 12:30                                               ` Michal Hocko

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