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From: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Jaeyeong Lee <iostreampy@proton.me>,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, pablo@netfilter.org,
	phil@nwl.cc
Subject: Re: [PATCH nf] netfilter: nf_nat: do not reuse an unexpected expectation on RTCP clash
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2026 10:08:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alNLcE1qJ5fwBO0N@strlen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2026071249-contented-gallantly-2927@gregkh>

Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > This is no different than the WARNs on list corruption or refcount
> > under/overflows.
> 
> True, but adding new ones is not a good idea, and removing the existing
> ones is a good idea.

We're fucked, then.  Can we at least use DEBUG_NET_WARN or something
like that so at least fizzers can give us hints about bugs?!

> > Would you propose to remove those?  I hope not, they help catch bugs.
> 
> Bugs that userspace can trigger?  If so, then properly catch them by
> testing and handling the issue.

Aka "Don't write buggy code".  Should have thought of that.

> If userspace can never trigger it, then
> it's not really needed as the code is never going to trigger.

It causes memory corruption and evidently triggers.

With "silently catch error" and no WARN there will be rare,
intermittent connectivity issues.

We are NOT in a syscall, there is no process to return
a meaningful error code to.

With WARN at least there is some chance that someone will report
it so underlying root cause gets fixed.

EOD from my side, have iot your way, silent ignore it is.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-12  8:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-10 23:19 netfilter: nf_nat_sip expectation UAF permits local privilege escalation Jaeyeong Lee
2026-07-11  5:29 ` Greg KH
2026-07-11 14:21   ` [PATCH nf] netfilter: nf_nat: do not reuse an unexpected expectation on RTCP clash Jaeyeong Lee
2026-07-11 16:29     ` Florian Westphal
2026-07-12  5:54       ` Greg KH
2026-07-12  7:40         ` Florian Westphal
2026-07-12  7:54           ` Greg KH
2026-07-12  8:08             ` Florian Westphal [this message]
2026-07-12  8:20               ` Greg KH
2026-07-12  8:40                 ` panic_on_warn and lack of lesser-WARN (was: Re: [PATCH nf] netfilter: nf_nat: do not reuse an unexpected expectation on RTCP clash) Florian Westphal

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