From: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86 APM: delete Linux kernel APM support
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 00:35:51 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1103260021410.28928@x980> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201103252333.23880.rjw@sisk.pl>
> > > > Beyond the lack of a upstream-visible feature-removal-schedule entry, we
> > > > still have an Arcnet driver which hardware was obsoleted by Ethernet in the
> > > > late 80s, and we still have i486 support and those are *much* older than
> > > > APM.
> > So how does your reasoning not apply to those drivers? There's several which
> > are older than APM support.
If we follow-through with the proposed cpuidle changes,
then we'll have to cut APM code. The problem isn't cutting
the code, it is testing it. I do have a couple of 15-year old
laptops which include APM support. However, with ACPI disabled
to enable APM, they don't even boot the upstream kernel today.
> > We had this really big battle about x86/Voyager two years ago, which x86
> > subarchitecture literally had just a single user left, and the code was more
> > intrusive than APM. Even there after much flaming the eventual consensus was
> > that we'd accept it back if it was done cleanly, as part of the new-style
> > x86_platform code.
> >
> > Given that APM fits into the current PM frameworks there's no such problem here
> > that i can see.
Somebody was pushing for Voyager support in the kernel
and was energetic about maintaining it.
cheers,
-Len
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-26 4:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <alpine.LFD.2.02.1103232321070.3848@x980>
[not found] ` <20110324154505.934a56a0.sfr@canb.auug.org.au>
2011-03-24 7:39 ` [PATCH] APM: delete APM in Linux-2.6.40 Len Brown
2011-03-24 7:39 ` Len Brown
2011-03-24 8:16 ` [PATCH] x86 APM: delete Linux kernel APM support Len Brown
2011-03-24 8:31 ` [PATCH] x86 APM: delete Linux kernel APM support (v2) Len Brown
2011-03-24 16:01 ` Andi Kleen
2011-03-24 16:01 ` Andi Kleen
2011-03-24 8:31 ` Len Brown
2011-03-24 8:39 ` [PATCH] x86 APM: delete Linux kernel APM support Ingo Molnar
2011-03-24 8:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-24 23:49 ` Len Brown
2011-03-24 23:49 ` Len Brown
2011-03-25 11:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 11:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 12:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 12:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 12:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 12:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 22:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-03-26 4:35 ` Len Brown
2011-03-26 4:35 ` Len Brown [this message]
2011-04-08 6:25 ` Pavel Machek
2011-04-08 6:25 ` Pavel Machek
2011-04-08 20:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-11 13:05 ` Pavel Machek
2011-04-11 18:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-13 13:30 ` Pavel Machek
2011-04-13 13:30 ` Pavel Machek
2011-04-11 18:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-04-11 13:05 ` Pavel Machek
2011-04-08 20:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-03-25 22:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-03-26 5:01 ` Len Brown
2011-03-26 5:01 ` Len Brown
2011-03-26 9:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-26 9:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-27 21:40 ` Ondrej Zary
2011-03-28 4:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-28 5:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-03-28 5:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-03-28 4:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-28 12:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-03-28 12:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-03-27 21:40 ` Ondrej Zary
2011-03-28 5:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-28 5:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-25 15:41 ` Calvin Walton
2011-03-25 15:41 ` Calvin Walton
2011-03-24 8:16 ` Len Brown
2011-03-24 8:18 ` [PATCH] APM: delete APM in Linux-2.6.40 Stephen Rothwell
2011-03-24 8:18 ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-03-24 8:38 ` Alexander Stein
2011-03-24 8:38 ` Alexander Stein
2011-03-24 10:21 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-03-24 10:21 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-03-24 23:05 ` Len Brown
2011-03-25 1:07 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-03-25 1:34 ` Len Brown
2011-03-25 1:34 ` Len Brown
2011-04-04 16:44 ` Pavel Machek
2011-04-04 20:18 ` Len Brown
2011-04-04 20:18 ` Len Brown
2011-04-04 16:44 ` Pavel Machek
2011-03-25 1:07 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-03-24 23:05 ` Len Brown
2011-03-24 12:15 ` Ondrej Zary
2011-03-24 23:29 ` Len Brown
2011-03-25 8:07 ` Ondrej Zary
2011-03-25 8:07 ` Ondrej Zary
2011-03-26 5:09 ` Len Brown
2011-03-26 5:09 ` Len Brown
2011-03-24 23:29 ` Len Brown
2011-03-24 12:15 ` Ondrej Zary
2011-04-02 21:40 ` Yuhong Bao
2011-04-02 21:40 ` Yuhong Bao
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