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From: "Michael L. Semon" <mlsemon35-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Andreas Rohner <andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-nilfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] nilfs-utils: skip inefficient gc operations
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:57:37 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.11.1401231529460.5162@bpserver.ds> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52E0EE08.3040703-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Andreas Rohner wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> On 2014-01-23 00:46, Michael L. Semon wrote:
>> Not having your super-secret test suite or disk space to run it, I
>> went the other direction, using the commonly available fs_mark utility
>> to make many tiny writes with 16 threads.  My initial opinion is that
>> your new GC code fixes some obvious lag when a filesystem is populated
>> and nilfs_cleanerd starts to do its work.
>
> Thanks for testing my code. It is not a super-secret test suite :), it's
> just a few 100 lines of crappy C code I am embarrassed to publish.
> Thanks for pointing out fs_mark, I didn't know it. From what I can see
> it seems to be the perfect tool to test the GC. I will repeat my
> measurements with fs_mark over the weekend.

No problem, just making sure.  I had some code to zero random bits
on a partition, and I'll probably never post that in public, either.
It's just hard to verify conclusions based on tools that I don't have.

fs_mark is one tool of many.  That use of fs_mark came from trying to
figure out RAID-0 stripe sizes; the NILFS2 results were by accident but
reflect exactly what I'm seeing in prolonged normal use.  xfstests has
fsstress, fsx, and a few other special-purpose tools.  There's also
Flexible I/O Tester, but it's one of those cool scriptable testers
that are a bit beyond my needs.

>> However, for reasons of code
>> or simple mathematics, the file system hits end-of-space a bit earlier
>> than does the unpatched code.  I'll have to build some kernels, live
>> with the system, and otherwise generate lots of checkpoints to know if
>> this is a problem.  IOW, I need to find out for myself if I need to
>> make a slightly larger filesystem to do the same things using a patched
>> NILFS2.
>
> Maybe my default values are a bit too high. 256 blocks are about 1 MB
> with 4k blocks. So if you use the current default settings, you could
> potentially loose 1/8 of your free space.

As long as I can plan free space in advance, all is well, though 12.5%
is a little much.  I try to plan NILFS2 to where I can run it all
day without causing too much garbage collection, then run `mkcp -s`
and nilfs-clean as cron jobs in the middle of the night.

Thanks!

Michael

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-01-23 20:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-21 13:59 [PATCH v2 0/5] nilfs-utils: skip inefficient gc operations Andreas Rohner
     [not found] ` <cover.1390310509.git.andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-21 13:59   ` [PATCH v2 1/5] nilfs-utils: cldconfig add an option to set minimal free blocks Andreas Rohner
     [not found]     ` <22b5b3ac403052d3044dc8c1bebe323191376c03.1390310509.git.andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-21 14:10       ` dexen deVries
2014-01-21 14:38         ` Andreas Rohner
2014-01-21 14:53       ` Andreas Rohner
2014-01-23 17:49       ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
     [not found]         ` <B1FCAEBD-EB58-4A06-BD6B-7D4FB533D9F1-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-23 18:31           ` Andreas Rohner
2014-01-21 13:59   ` [PATCH v2 2/5] nilfs-utils: cleanerd: add custom error value to enable fast retry Andreas Rohner
     [not found]     ` <e9d3dd17318a994fe7e2c100368212e0b4029e13.1390310509.git.andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-23 17:49       ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
     [not found]         ` <FE7FB751-68F4-48C3-A97A-782F4F6E69FE-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-23 19:08           ` Andreas Rohner
2014-01-21 13:59   ` [PATCH v2 3/5] nilfs-utils: refactoring of nilfs_reclaim_segment to add minblocks param Andreas Rohner
     [not found]     ` <36ef66ee15b3de8ca00815a6baa7bf6b62ca57d4.1390310509.git.andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 18:04       ` Ryusuke Konishi
2014-01-21 13:59   ` [PATCH v2 4/5] nilfs-utils: add support for NILFS_IOCTL_SET_SUINFO ioctl Andreas Rohner
     [not found]     ` <72f8c37258d08ba9793b0c1bb0374dd8efcd4756.1390310509.git.andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-23 17:49       ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
     [not found]         ` <62FA32DB-83AC-4570-BD73-618C169390FE-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-23 19:17           ` Andreas Rohner
     [not found]             ` <52E16AE4.4000303-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-25 16:16               ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2014-01-24 18:26       ` Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]         ` <20140125.032633.184837411.konishi.ryusuke-Zyj7fXuS5i5L9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 20:00           ` Andreas Rohner
     [not found]             ` <52E2C643.3070704-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-25 18:52               ` Ryusuke Konishi
2014-01-26 10:00               ` Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]                 ` <20140126.190004.443429632.konishi.ryusuke-Zyj7fXuS5i5L9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-26 11:24                   ` Andreas Rohner
2014-01-21 13:59   ` [PATCH v2 5/5] nilfs-utils: man: add description of min_free_blocks_threshold Andreas Rohner
2014-01-21 14:00   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] nilfs2: add new nilfs_suinfo_update struct Andreas Rohner
     [not found]     ` <cec6a449ddf5ae9da2928cdddfb96ebcb2789eee.1390312777.git.andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-21 14:00       ` [PATCH v2 2/3] nilfs2: add nilfs_sufile_set_suinfo to update segment usage info Andreas Rohner
     [not found]         ` <2fd48b2d524a59a02bdad13c0c194de3e5b55cc7.1390312777.git.andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 11:56           ` Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]             ` <20140124.205623.400541300.konishi.ryusuke-Zyj7fXuS5i5L9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 12:34               ` Andreas Rohner
     [not found]                 ` <52E25DDC.2060502-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 16:34                   ` Ryusuke Konishi
2014-01-21 14:00       ` [PATCH v2 3/3] nilfs2: implementation of NILFS_IOCTL_SET_SUINFO ioctl Andreas Rohner
     [not found]         ` <6fb5a6d45afca9ae2599c471c0e42805ed1b6c55.1390312777.git.andreas.rohner-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 13:20           ` Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]             ` <20140124.222016.110509397.konishi.ryusuke-Zyj7fXuS5i5L9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 13:44               ` Andreas Rohner
     [not found]                 ` <52E26E46.3030702-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 15:23                   ` Ryusuke Konishi
2014-01-24  4:56       ` [PATCH v2 1/3] nilfs2: add new nilfs_suinfo_update struct Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]         ` <20140124.135635.27780504.konishi.ryusuke-Zyj7fXuS5i5L9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 12:11           ` Andreas Rohner
     [not found]             ` <52E25883.3010307-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 12:37               ` Ryusuke Konishi
2014-01-22 23:46   ` [PATCH v2 0/5] nilfs-utils: skip inefficient gc operations Michael L. Semon
     [not found]     ` <52E05863.90604-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-23 10:25       ` Andreas Rohner
     [not found]         ` <52E0EE08.3040703-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-23 20:57           ` Michael L. Semon [this message]
2014-01-23 17:48   ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
     [not found]     ` <85EBEC6B-CA69-472A-8DDD-8E056F809EC4-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-23 18:12       ` Andreas Rohner
     [not found]         ` <52E15B9E.6040307-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24  8:02           ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
     [not found]             ` <FC7F25C5-1E72-4DF5-B860-FBCE36E91EAB-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-24 14:18               ` Andreas Rohner
     [not found]                 ` <52E27651.6070207-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-25 16:33                   ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
     [not found]                     ` <82ACC3FC-BE83-483F-99D8-D13F4D02C58F-yeENwD64cLxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-26  6:57                       ` Ryusuke Konishi
     [not found]                         ` <20140126.155740.56352351.konishi.ryusuke-Zyj7fXuS5i5L9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-26 10:36                           ` Andreas Rohner

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