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From: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
To: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Cc: selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, paul@paul-moore.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 04/10] netns, selinux: create the selinux netlink socket per network namespace
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 12:07:53 +1100 (AEDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.21.1710061204020.19396@namei.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171002155825.28620-5-sds@tycho.nsa.gov>

On Mon, 2 Oct 2017, Stephen Smalley wrote:

> This change presumes that one will always unshare the network namespace
> when unsharing a new selinux namespace (the reverse is not required).
> Otherwise, the same inconsistencies could arise between the notifications
> and the relevant policy.  At present, nothing enforces this guarantee
> at the kernel level; it is left up to userspace (e.g. container runtimes).
> It is an open question as to whether this is a good idea or whether
> unsharing of the selinux namespace should automatically unshare the network
> namespace.  

What about logging a kernel warning if just SELinux is unshared?

I think we want to avoid surprising the user by unsharing things for them, 
and yes, it will be possible to mess your system up if you configure it 
badly.

> However, keeping them separate is consistent with the handling
> of the mount namespace currently, which also should be unshared so that
> a private selinuxfs mount can be created.

Right, and this will in practice always be automated and abstracted from 
an end user pov.


-- 
James Morris
<jmorris@namei.org>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-10-06  1:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-02 15:58 [RFC 00/10] Introduce a SELinux namespace Stephen Smalley
2017-10-02 15:58 ` [RFC 01/10] selinux: introduce a selinux namespace Stephen Smalley
2018-02-06 22:18   ` Paul Moore
2018-02-07 16:17     ` Paul Moore
2018-02-07 17:48     ` Stephen Smalley
2018-02-07 19:56       ` Paul Moore
2018-02-08 15:02         ` Stephen Smalley
2018-02-08 21:41           ` Paul Moore
2017-10-02 15:58 ` [RFC 02/10] selinux: support multiple selinuxfs instances Stephen Smalley
2017-10-02 15:58 ` [RFC 03/10] selinux: move the AVC into the selinux namespace Stephen Smalley
2017-10-09  3:10   ` James Morris
2017-10-10 14:35     ` Stephen Smalley
2017-10-02 15:58 ` [RFC 04/10] netns, selinux: create the selinux netlink socket per network namespace Stephen Smalley
2017-10-05  5:47   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-10-05 14:06     ` Stephen Smalley
2017-10-05 14:11       ` Stephen Smalley
2017-10-29  3:16       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-10-06  1:07   ` James Morris [this message]
2017-10-06 13:21     ` Stephen Smalley
2017-10-06 19:24       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-10-10 14:35         ` Stephen Smalley
2017-10-02 15:58 ` [RFC 05/10] selinux: support per-task/cred selinux namespace Stephen Smalley
2017-10-06  1:14   ` James Morris
2017-10-06 19:25     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-10-08 22:08       ` James Morris
2017-10-02 15:58 ` [RFC 06/10] selinux: introduce cred_selinux_ns() and use it Stephen Smalley
2017-10-02 15:58 ` [RFC 07/10] selinux: support per-namespace inode security structures Stephen Smalley
2017-10-02 15:58 ` [RFC 08/10] selinux: support per-namespace superblock " Stephen Smalley
2017-10-02 15:58 ` [RFC 09/10] selinux: add a selinuxfs interface to unshare selinux namespace Stephen Smalley
2017-10-02 23:56   ` Casey Schaufler
2017-10-03 12:29     ` Stephen Smalley
2017-10-03 17:14       ` Casey Schaufler
2017-10-05 15:27   ` Stephen Smalley
2017-10-05 15:49     ` Stephen Smalley
2017-10-05 17:04       ` Stephen Smalley
2017-10-09  1:52     ` James Morris
     [not found]       ` <CAB9W1A2-PT8QU-md1s9fxhNg+Cv0C4Xu-i1w_q0XzQ+K9rsyAg@mail.gmail.com>
2017-10-09 13:53         ` Stephen Smalley
2017-10-09 23:04           ` James Morris
2017-10-02 15:58 ` [RFC 10/10] selinuxfs: restrict write operations to the same " Stephen Smalley

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