From: Alan Maguire <alan.maguire@oracle.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan Maguire <alan.maguire@oracle.com>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andriin@fb.com>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
Networking <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>,
"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Jonathan Lemon <jonathan.lemon@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 1/6] bpf: implement BPF ring buffer and verifier support for it
Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 23:25:39 +0100 (BST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.21.2005142243090.24127@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzZpa3Xjevy-tV2oD2Yoxhf=Sm1EPNZdWsv0CoUCSmuF9w@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, 13 May 2020, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 2:59 PM Alan Maguire <alan.maguire@oracle.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > - attach a kprobe program to record the data via bpf_ringbuf_reserve(),
> > and store the reserved pointer value in a per-task keyed hashmap.
> > Then record the values of interest in the reserved space. This is our
> > speculative data as we don't know whether we want to commit it yet.
> >
> > - attach a kretprobe program that picks up our reserved pointer and
> > commit()s or discard()s the associated data based on the return value.
> >
> > - the consumer should (I think) then only read the committed data, so in
> > this case just the data of interest associated with the failure case.
> >
> > I'm curious if that sort of ringbuf access pattern across multiple
> > programs would work? Thanks!
>
>
> Right now it's not allowed. Similar to spin lock and socket reference,
> verifier will enforce that reserved record is committed or discarded
> within the same BPF program invocation. Technically, nothing prevents
> us from relaxing this and allowing to store this pointer in a map, but
> that's probably way too dangerous and not necessary for most common
> cases.
>
Understood.
> But all your troubles with this is due to using a pair of
> kprobe+kretprobe. What I think should solve your problem is a single
> fexit program. It can read input arguments *and* return value of
> traced function. So there won't be any need for additional map and
> storing speculative data (and no speculation as well, because you'll
> just know beforehand if you even need to capture data). Does this work
> for your case?
>
That would work for that case, absolutely! Thanks!
Alan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-14 22:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-13 19:25 [PATCH bpf-next 0/6] BPF ring buffer Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-13 19:25 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/6] bpf: implement BPF ring buffer and verifier support for it Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-13 20:57 ` kbuild test robot
2020-05-13 20:57 ` kbuild test robot
2020-05-13 21:58 ` Alan Maguire
2020-05-14 5:59 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-14 22:25 ` Alan Maguire [this message]
2020-05-13 22:16 ` kbuild test robot
2020-05-13 22:16 ` kbuild test robot
2020-05-14 16:50 ` Jonathan Lemon
2020-05-14 20:11 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-14 17:33 ` sdf
2020-05-14 20:18 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-14 20:53 ` sdf
2020-05-14 21:13 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-14 21:56 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2020-05-14 19:06 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-05-14 20:49 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-14 19:18 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-14 19:18 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-14 20:39 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-14 21:30 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-14 22:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-14 22:56 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-05-14 23:06 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-13 19:25 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/6] tools/memory-model: add BPF ringbuf MPSC litmus tests Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-13 19:25 ` [PATCH bpf-next 3/6] bpf: track reference type in verifier Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-13 19:25 ` [PATCH bpf-next 4/6] libbpf: add BPF ring buffer support Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-13 19:25 ` [PATCH bpf-next 5/6] selftests/bpf: add BPF ringbuf selftests Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-13 19:25 ` [PATCH bpf-next 6/6] bpf: add BPF ringbuf and perf buffer benchmarks Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-13 22:49 ` [PATCH bpf-next 0/6] BPF ring buffer Jonathan Lemon
2020-05-14 6:08 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-14 16:30 ` Jonathan Lemon
2020-05-14 20:06 ` Andrii Nakryiko
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