From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 03/15] mm: abstract vma_address() and introduce vma_anon_address()
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2026 11:16:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <amskFlOFd7l-VRpQ@lucifer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <amrw2v7TVl_AG5_3@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F>
On Thu, Jul 30, 2026 at 02:39:27AM -0400, Gregory Price wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2026 at 12:58:22AM -0400, Gregory Price wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 29, 2026 at 05:48:38PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote:
> > >
> > > This will be necessary for determining the address of a folio's index
> > > within a VMA when the folio belongs to a MAP_PRIVATE file-backed VMA but
> > > has been CoW'd, and thus is anonymous, once the anonymous VMA page offset
> > > field is used for the reverse mapping.
> > >
> >
> > This is a doozy of a sentence...
> >
> > ... determines the address of a folio's index within a VMA when
> > - the folio belongs to a MAP_PRIVATE file-backed VMA, but
> > - <The VMA> has been cow'd
> > - thus <The CoW'd VMA> is anonymous (as well)
> > - The original VMA may or may not also be marked anonymous?
> > (just clarifying, could be original mapper or a COW that COWs)
> >
> > Ow, my brain. One question below
> >
>
> After re-reading the cover-letter again - my note here is wrong and
> my brain hurts more.
>
> ... determines the address of a folio's index within a VMA when
> - the folio belongs to a MAP_PRIVATE file-backed VMA, but
> - <The Folio> has been CoW'd
> - thus <The CoW'd Folio> is <now marked> anonymous
> - The original folio may or may not have been anonymous
> (depending on whether it, itself, was a CoW copy)
Yeah :) this message is meant to be effectively a placeholder for 'there's a
good reason for doing this' :) I go to greater lengths to explain in the bits
that actually implement it.
>
> Lorenzo you are truly doing Darwin's work untangling all of this.
Thanks :)
This is really painful stuff and trying to get to scalable CoW the 'right way'
(i.e. several series and probably 3 figures of patches) is a slog, but once in
place will be worthwhile (and also save a bunch of memory :)
>
> ~Gregory
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-30 10:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-29 16:48 [PATCH v3 00/15] mm/rmap: index MAP_PRIVATE file-backed folios by anonymous pgoff Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-29 16:48 ` [PATCH v3 01/15] mm/vma: introduce VMA anon page offset field and add helpers Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-29 17:11 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-30 3:32 ` Gregory Price
2026-08-03 9:28 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-03 9:46 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-03 9:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-03 10:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-29 16:48 ` [PATCH v3 02/15] mm: introduce linear_anon_page_index() Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-30 6:28 ` Gregory Price
2026-08-03 9:34 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-03 10:10 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-29 16:48 ` [PATCH v3 03/15] mm: abstract vma_address() and introduce vma_anon_address() Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-30 4:58 ` Gregory Price
2026-07-30 6:39 ` Gregory Price
2026-07-30 10:16 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) [this message]
2026-08-03 9:37 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-29 16:48 ` [PATCH v3 04/15] mm: update print_bad_page_map() to show anonymous page index Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-30 6:32 ` Gregory Price
2026-08-03 9:39 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-03 10:19 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-05 8:30 ` Gregory Price
2026-08-05 9:01 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-06 15:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-06 16:54 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-08-06 17:18 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-03 9:39 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-29 16:48 ` [PATCH v3 05/15] mm: introduce and use vma_filebacked_address() Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-03 9:54 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-03 10:15 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-29 16:48 ` [PATCH v3 06/15] mm: propagate VMA anonymous page offset on map, remap, split + merge Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-03 10:52 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-03 13:46 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-05 7:35 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-05 8:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-05 9:19 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-05 9:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-29 16:48 ` [PATCH v3 07/15] mm/rmap: track whether the page VMA mapped pgoff is anonymous Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-03 10:57 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-03 13:51 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-03 14:02 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-03 14:32 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-05 7:17 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-05 7:25 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-29 16:48 ` [PATCH v3 08/15] mm: introduce and use linear_folio_page_index() Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-03 11:27 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-03 14:30 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-05 7:26 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-05 9:02 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-29 16:48 ` [PATCH v3 09/15] mm/rmap: use anon pgoff to track MAP_PRIVATE file-backed anon folios Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-03 11:32 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-03 14:30 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-29 16:48 ` [PATCH v3 10/15] tools/testing/vma: expand VMA merge tests to assert anon pgoff Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-29 16:48 ` [PATCH v3 11/15] tools/testing/selftests/mm: test anonymous page offset merge behaviour Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-29 16:48 ` [PATCH v3 12/15] mm/vma: only permit MAP_PRIVATE /dev/zero to be mapped anonymous Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-29 16:48 ` [PATCH v3 13/15] mm/vma: make MAP_PRIVATE-mapped /dev/zero mappings truly anonymous Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-29 16:48 ` [PATCH v3 14/15] tools/testing/vma: add test to assert MAP_PRIVATE-/dev/zero is anon Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-29 16:48 ` [PATCH v3 15/15] tools/testing/selftests/mm: add MAP_PRIVATE-/dev/zero merge tests Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
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