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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 20/41] KVM: Let userspace disable per-VM mem attributes, enable per-gmem attributes
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2026 11:13:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <an9auxaZBuTJCAr-@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f41624da-8461-45cf-b555-241091faeb63@linux.intel.com>

On Fri, Aug 14, 2026, Binbin Wu wrote:
> On 8/8/2026 5:52 AM, Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay wrote:
> > From: Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>
> > 
> > Make gmem_in_place_conversion a module parameter so that userspace can
> > configure enable or disable the use of VM-level memory attributes. The
> > module parameter is only available if CONFIG_KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES is
> > enabled.
> > 
> > To avoid inconsistencies in the way memory attributes are tracked in KVM
> > and guest_memfd, the vm_memory_attributes module_param is made
> 
> The description is stale, since there is no module_param called
> vm_memory_attributes?
> 
> > read-only (0444).
> > 
> > Since selecting CONFIG_KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES disables in-place
> > conversion, 
> 
> "selecting CONFIG_KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES" doesn't necessarily disable
> in-place conversion, it also depends on the setting of
> gmem_in_place_conversion.
> To be accurate, maybe add "by default"?

+1.

Ackerley, please write changelogs in imperative mood, i.e. state things like this
as command, not as a passive description of what the code now does.  And I would
omit the blurb on changing the kvm_arch_has_private_mem() definition, for me that
falls into the category of giving a play-by-play explanation of the code change.
I.e. Let the diff speak for itself.

E.g.

  Allow the user to disable KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES even when KVM supports
  PRIVATE and SHARED attributes, and expose gmem_in_place_conversion as a
  module parameter when per-VM attributes are supported.  I.e. let userspace
  enable in-place PRIVATE<=>SHARED conversion of guest_memfd pages.

  Provide both a Kconfig option and a (conditional) module param so that
  deployments that use a custom kernel can fully disable per-VM tracking,
  while not forcing distros to ship two separate kernels in order to provide
  backwards compatibility for downstream users.

  Don't allow running VMs with mixed tracking for a given instance of KVM,
  i.e. disallow toggling the module param after KVM is loaded, as the extra
  complexity needed to handle per-VM behavior far outweighs any potential
  benefit.  E.g. neither TDX nor SNP supports live migration, so in effect
  the requirement is that existing deployments that want to support both the
  old and the new models would need to tell their VMM which flavor of
  tracking to use.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-14 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 149+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-07 21:52 [PATCH v10 00/41] guest_memfd: In-place conversion support Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:52 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:52 ` [PATCH v10 01/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Use kvm_mem_is_private() when populating guest_memfd memory Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:52   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-12  3:12   ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-12  8:16   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-12 13:34   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-08-07 21:52 ` [PATCH v10 02/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Introduce per-gmem attributes, use to guard user mappings Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:52   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10 15:12   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-12  3:27   ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-07 21:52 ` [PATCH v10 03/41] KVM: Rename KVM_GENERIC_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES to KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:52   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:52 ` [PATCH v10 04/41] KVM: Enumerate support for PRIVATE memory iff kvm_arch_has_private_mem is defined Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:52   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-12  8:23   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-07 21:52 ` [PATCH v10 05/41] KVM: Rename memory attribute APIs to prepare for in-place gmem conversion Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:52   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-12  5:23   ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-07 21:52 ` [PATCH v10 06/41] KVM: Provide generic interface for checking memory private/shared status Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:52   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-12  5:33   ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-07 21:52 ` [PATCH v10 07/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Stub in ability to enable in-place shared<=>private conversion Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:52   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10  8:49   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-10 15:01     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-12  9:42       ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-13 18:40         ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-12 10:53       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-12 21:34         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-13 18:30           ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-12  9:45   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-12 13:35   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-08-07 21:52 ` [PATCH v10 08/41] KVM: Consolidate private memory and guest_memfd ifdeffery in kvm_host.h Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:52   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10  8:50   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-07 21:52 ` [PATCH v10 09/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Filter both shared and private when invalidating Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:52   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10  9:06   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-10  9:27     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-08-10 19:11       ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-12 13:35   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-08-07 21:52 ` [PATCH v10 10/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Add base support for KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES2 Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:52   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:52 ` [PATCH v10 11/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Ensure pages are not in use before conversion Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:52   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-08  0:29   ` Yan Zhao
2026-08-09 21:51     ` Yan Zhao
2026-08-10 21:06       ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-11  1:04         ` Yan Zhao
2026-08-11  2:17           ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-11  4:50             ` Yan Zhao
2026-08-11 17:35               ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-11 17:47                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-13 18:51                   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-13 20:26                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-13 23:20                       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-13 23:30                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-10  9:19   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-10 21:41     ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10 22:26       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 17:56         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-07 21:52 ` [PATCH v10 12/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Call arch make_shared callback for to-shared conversion Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:52   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-13  6:56   ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-13 15:55     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-13 21:01       ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-13 22:08         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-14  0:05           ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-14 15:04             ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-07 21:52 ` [PATCH v10 13/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Return early if range already has requested attributes Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:52   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-14  2:30   ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-07 21:52 ` [PATCH v10 14/41] mm/gup: factor out LRU cache draining for folio into lru_cache_drain_for_folio() Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:52   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10  9:22   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-12 13:37   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-08-07 21:52 ` [PATCH v10 15/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Handle lru_add fbatch refcounts during conversion safety check Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:52   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10  9:25   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-10 21:29     ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-12 13:36   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-08-14  3:25   ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-07 21:52 ` [PATCH v10 16/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Zero page while getting pfn Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:52   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10  9:30   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-10 23:41     ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-11  0:18       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 17:51         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-14  5:18   ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-07 21:52 ` [PATCH v10 17/41] KVM: SEV: Make 'uaddr' parameter optional for KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_UPDATE Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:52   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:52 ` [PATCH v10 18/41] KVM: TDX: Make source page optional for KVM_TDX_INIT_MEM_REGION Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:52   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-14  5:57   ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-14 17:57     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-07 21:52 ` [PATCH v10 19/41] KVM: Move KVM_VM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES config definition to x86 Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:52   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10  9:32   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-07 21:52 ` [PATCH v10 20/41] KVM: Let userspace disable per-VM mem attributes, enable per-gmem attributes Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:52   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10  9:36   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-13 21:23     ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-14  6:30   ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-14 18:13     ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-08-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v10 21/41] KVM: guest_memfd: Enable INIT_SHARED on guest_memfd for x86 Coco VMs Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:53   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-14  6:36   ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v10 22/41] KVM: selftests: Create gmem fd before "regular" fd when adding memslot Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:53   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v10 23/41] KVM: selftests: Rename guest_memfd{,_offset} to gmem_{fd,offset} Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:53   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v10 24/41] KVM: selftests: Add support for mmap() on guest_memfd in core library Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:53   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v10 25/41] KVM: selftests: Add selftests global for guest memory attributes capability Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:53   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v10 26/41] KVM: selftests: Add helpers for calling ioctls on guest_memfd Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:53   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v10 27/41] KVM: selftests: Test basic single-page conversion flow Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:53   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v10 28/41] KVM: selftests: Test conversion flow when INIT_SHARED Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:53   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v10 29/41] KVM: selftests: Test conversion precision in guest_memfd Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:53   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v10 30/41] KVM: selftests: Test conversion before allocation Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:53   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v10 31/41] KVM: selftests: Convert with allocated folios in different layouts Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:53   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v10 32/41] KVM: selftests: Test that truncation does not change shared/private status Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:53   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v10 33/41] KVM: selftests: Test that shared/private status is consistent across processes Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:53   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v10 34/41] KVM: selftests: Add helpers to pin pages with CONFIG_GUP_TEST Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:53   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v10 35/41] KVM: selftests: Test conversion with elevated page refcount Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:53   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v10 36/41] KVM: selftests: Reset shared memory after hole-punching Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:53   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v10 37/41] KVM: selftests: Provide function to look up guest_memfd details from gpa Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:53   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v10 38/41] KVM: selftests: Provide common function to set memory attributes Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:53   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v10 39/41] KVM: selftests: Make TEST_EXPECT_SIGBUS thread-safe Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:53   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v10 40/41] KVM: selftests: Update private_mem_conversions_test to mmap() guest_memfd Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:53   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-07 21:53 ` [PATCH v10 41/41] KVM: selftests: Update private memory exits test to work with per-gmem attributes Ackerley Tng via B4 Relay
2026-08-07 21:53   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10  8:43 ` [PATCH v10 00/41] guest_memfd: In-place conversion support David Hildenbrand (Arm)

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