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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david.hildenbrand@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com,  kvm@vger.kernel.org, maz@kernel.org,
	oupton@kernel.org, joey.gouly@arm.com,  seiden@linux.ibm.com,
	suzuki.poulose@arm.com, yuzenghui@huawei.com,
	 linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	 fuad.tabba@linux.dev
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] KVM: Dirty page logging for guest_memfd-only memslots
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2026 12:11:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <an9oR3dBVgFs7j7q@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <an9JNUln8dKaidQc@raptor>

On Fri, Aug 14, 2026, Alexandru Elisei wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2026 at 06:03:54AM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > Yes, I'm supportive of KVM expressing to guest_memfd that page migration isn't
> > supported by the VM.  I'm only objecting to expressing that memory must stay
> > mapped in S2, because guest_memfd doesn't care *why* page migration is or isn't
> > supported/allowed by a particular VM.
> 
> My naive contribution is this idea I had:
> 
> 1. Userspace queries support in KVM for feature xyz by checking the
> capability KVM_CAP_xyz.
> 
> 2. Userspace knows that for feature xyz to work correctly, it is required
> that memory remains mapped at stage 2.
> 
> 3. Userspace creates a guest_memfd instance with the right combination of
> flags set and _unset_ for feature xyz to work correctly - i.e, to keep
> memory mapped at stage 2.
> 
> For this to work, new guest_memfd features that might lead to memory being
> unmapped are enabled via a flag, and KVM keeps memory mapped at stage 2 by
> default, to maintain compatibility with an userspace not updated for the
> new features/flags.

Probably?  It's impossible to know what the exact flows will look like, but the
common theme for everything will be "don't break userspace".

We might make guest_memfd page migration opt-in, but if all of the incompatible
setups can enumerate their existence prior to creating guest_memfd files, we may
handle it all automatically, e.g. enable page migration by default, but disable
it if a TDX, SNP, pKVM, or SPE-capable VM is detected.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-14 19:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-02 14:29 [RFC PATCH 0/3] KVM: Dirty page logging for guest_memfd-only memslots Alexandru Elisei
2026-07-02 14:29 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] KVM: guest_memfd: Use memslot id to keep track of associated memslots Alexandru Elisei
2026-07-02 14:47   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-02 16:09     ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-07-06  7:14   ` David Hildenbrand
2026-07-06 13:45     ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-07-06 21:46       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-07 17:05         ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-07-06 21:43   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-07 17:05     ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-07-13 14:03       ` David Hildenbrand
2026-07-13 16:13         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-13 13:42     ` David Hildenbrand
2026-07-02 14:29 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] KVM: Implement dirty page logging for guest_memfd-only memslots Alexandru Elisei
2026-07-07  1:29   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-07 17:12     ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-07-14  5:39       ` Kishen Maloor
2026-07-02 14:29 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] KVM: arm64: Allow " Alexandru Elisei
2026-07-07  0:56 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] KVM: Dirty " Sean Christopherson
2026-07-07 16:58   ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-07-07 17:12     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 11:21       ` Mark Rutland
2026-07-09 19:01         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-10 10:26           ` Mark Rutland
2026-07-13 14:11             ` David Hildenbrand
2026-08-13 16:09               ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-08-13 20:01                 ` David Hildenbrand
2026-08-13 23:32                   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-14  7:51                     ` David Hildenbrand
2026-08-14 13:03                       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-14 15:56                         ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-08-14 16:04                           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-14 16:26                             ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-08-14 16:58                         ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-08-14 19:11                           ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-07-09 20:33     ` Oliver Upton
2026-07-10 10:44       ` Alexandru Elisei
2026-07-10 18:18         ` Oliver Upton
2026-07-13 13:48           ` Alexandru Elisei

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