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Branden Robinson" , Keith Bostic , Sam James , linux-man@vger.kernel.org, Mark Harris , Nevin Liber , JeanHeyd Meneide , Christopher Bazley , "Serge E. Hallyn" , Iker Pedrosa , "Evgeny Grin (Karlson2k)" , Kees Cook , bug-gnulib@gnu.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org, Douglas McIlroy Subject: Re: proposed revision to memory.h(3head) (was: on the irresponsibility of pursuing C language reform) Message-ID: References: <87y0epdhxp.fsf@gentoo.org> <87zez5bz49.fsf@gentoo.org> <20260801235332.vc443gozbqkqdqm5@illithid> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-man@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="m2ps4axsmplzsj3p" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: --m2ps4axsmplzsj3p Content-Type: text/plain; protected-headers=v1; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Alejandro Colomar To: Joseph Myers Cc: "G. Branden Robinson" , Keith Bostic , Sam James , linux-man@vger.kernel.org, Mark Harris , Nevin Liber , JeanHeyd Meneide , Christopher Bazley , "Serge E. Hallyn" , Iker Pedrosa , "Evgeny Grin (Karlson2k)" , Kees Cook , bug-gnulib@gnu.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org, Douglas McIlroy Subject: Re: proposed revision to memory.h(3head) (was: on the irresponsibility of pursuing C language reform) Message-ID: References: <87y0epdhxp.fsf@gentoo.org> <87zez5bz49.fsf@gentoo.org> <20260801235332.vc443gozbqkqdqm5@illithid> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Hi Joseph, > Date: 2026-08-03 14:10:30+0000 > From: Joseph Myers > > On Sun, 2 Aug 2026, Alejandro Colomar wrote: >=20 > > I don't know of any copy of SVID Issue 1. >=20 > I have a printed copy. It has on pages 208 and 209, with=20 > FUTURE DIRECTIONS saying "The declarations in will be moved to= =20 > .". (Likewise in XPG1.) >=20 > > I'd be curious to see whether XPG Issue 3 still kept (but > > I suspect it won't, since it derives from POSIX.1-1988). >=20 > Page 642 of volume 2 lists it as WITHDRAWN, "The declarations in=20 > have been moved to .". >=20 > So there you have explicit statements showing an intentional, planned=20 > move. Thanks a lot! I'll change the manual pages to reflect these historic details. I still think that since those are not mainstream, users shouldn't be confused about the fact that has been obsolete for so long and is now shown in documentation. But these historic details will certainly change the documentation I wrote. Thanks! Have a lovely day! 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