From: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
To: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Cc: Jakub Sitnicki <jakub@cloudflare.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org,
Steffen Klassert <steffen.klassert@secunet.com>,
kernel-team@cloudflare.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next] net: Use fixed slots for skb extensions
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2026 15:23:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <apA6Vaei3-GEXEWz@strlen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <73331a07-46a3-4349-98b1-b388bcd783d0@redhat.com>
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Yes, initially this was krealloc()'d area. But the other assumption
> > was that most skbs will carry no extension at all, or, in some configs
> > one maybe two (IPsec gateway for instance).
> >
> > Thats why the first added extension is also at the beginning of the
> > memory blob (that needs to be accessed anyway), regardless of the ID.
> >
> > I don't insist on keeping offsets[], if you feel like microbenchmarking
> > different use-cases to see if it makes a difference to have a fixed
> > memory layout feel free to explore that.
>
> Both options for different skb ext layouts save a few bytes from the
> final `struct skb_ext` size. This is IMHO quite relevant as the total
> size is approaching the memory partition size (IIRC it's almost 256
> bytes), and the bpf ext could make skb_ext require the next one (512).
We're close to the 8-extensions limit (u8 id), the total blob size can
be 2k, as offset is in '>> 8' units.
> Still WRT optimizing skb_ext size, I think that it should be feasible to
> optimize the layout proposed by Florian by taking in account that some
> exts are 'mutually exclusive' i.e. on top of my head mptcp and bridge
> should never be attached to the same skb, and I *guess* can_skb_ext is
> mutually exclusive with most of the others.
Yes, there are extensions that are expected to be mutually exclusive,
> The layout could be adapted to such constraints, and there could be
> run-time checks (under DEBUG_NET) to verify such constrains at skb_add
> time leveraging `present_extensions` and a static matrix describing the
> mutual exclusive status for all extensions.
Yes, simple union this, union that, is too fragile, skb_ext_add will
have to check and reject as you say.
OTOH, I think this is orthogonal to what Jakub S. needs for the BPF
extension.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-27 13:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-25 16:01 [PATCH RFC net-next] net: Use fixed slots for skb extensions Jakub Sitnicki
2026-08-26 21:02 ` Florian Westphal
2026-08-26 21:25 ` Florian Westphal
2026-08-27 7:42 ` Paolo Abeni
2026-08-27 8:34 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2026-08-27 12:28 ` Jakub Sitnicki
2026-08-27 13:23 ` Florian Westphal [this message]
2026-08-27 12:24 ` Jakub Sitnicki
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