From: Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/25] mm/fbatch: LRU_NEXT_ACTIVATE bit to optimize folio_activate()
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2026 03:28:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <apThx6sWOQ-aZcN7@thinkstation> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7b30ca86-dca6-83b7-a632-180e35ed2a0c@google.com>
On Fri, Aug 28, 2026 at 01:40:51AM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> Do you have a head for smp_mb__ barriers? I'm more anxious that
> I might be missing one or two of those.
I think the release side of PG_lru is missing.
You effectively turn PG_lru into a lock over folio->lru.next.
The acquire side works: test_and_clear_bit() has a return value, so it
is fully ordered.
But there's a problem with release. set_bit() is unordered. You
correctly placed a fence in __folio_add_lru(), but every other
folio_set_lru() is problematic.
For instance:
CPU0 CPU1
folio_batch_move_lru() folio_batch_move_lru()
lru_add_del_folio()
lru.next = LIST_POISON1
lruvec lock
list_add()
/* no barrier */
set_bit(PG_lru)
folio_try_get() == true
folio_test_clear_lru() == true
lru_next == stale BATCHED ???
lruvec unlock
If CPU1 sees a stale BATCHED, lru_add_del_folio() returns true without
doing the list_del() or the NR_LRU_BASE accounting, and CPU1 then goes
on to lruvec_add_folio() a folio that is already on a list.
I think we need to have a helper that would set PG_lru and enforce
release semantics.
--
Kiryl Shutsemau / Kirill A. Shutemov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-31 2:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-24 13:49 [PATCH 00/25] mm/fbatch: drain lru_add_drain() and _all() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 13:52 ` [PATCH 01/25] mm/fbatch: remove !CONFIG_SMP special case of folio_activate() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-27 17:23 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-24 13:55 ` [PATCH 02/25] mm/fbatch: allow folios_put_refs() to skip xa_is_value() entries Hugh Dickins
2026-08-27 17:35 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-24 13:58 ` [PATCH 03/25] mm/fbatch: temporarily disable lazyfree and mlock+munlock batching Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:01 ` [PATCH 04/25] mm/fbatch: lru bit set, no extra ref, while folio on per-cpu fbatch Hugh Dickins
2026-08-27 11:46 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-28 8:04 ` Hugh Dickins
2026-08-28 14:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-08-28 22:20 ` Hugh Dickins
2026-09-02 4:05 ` Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:03 ` [PATCH 05/25] mm/fbatch: lru_add_del_folio()+folio_add_lru() after clear_lru() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:06 ` [PATCH 06/25] mm/fbatch: fbatch_drain_lazyfree(onstack fbatch) before ptl unlock Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:09 ` [PATCH 07/25] mm/fbatch: LRU_NEXT_ACTIVATE bit to optimize folio_activate() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-27 12:02 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-08-28 8:40 ` Hugh Dickins
2026-08-31 2:28 ` Kiryl Shutsemau [this message]
2026-08-24 14:11 ` [PATCH 08/25] mm/fbatch: replace mlock_new_folio() by __folio_add_lru(,mlockit) Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:14 ` [PATCH 09/25] mm/fbatch: restore mlock+munlock batching, without extra ref Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:16 ` [PATCH 10/25] mm/fbatch: remove several uses of mlock_drain_local() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:18 ` [PATCH 11/25] mm/fbatch: remove migration's PAGE_WAS_MLOCKED lru_add_drain() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:20 ` [PATCH 12/25] mm/fbatch: remove percpu_pvec_drained and folios_put() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:23 ` [PATCH 13/25] mm/fbatch: no lru_add_drain() to collect_longterm_unpinnable_folios() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:55 ` [PATCH alt " Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 18:42 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-27 9:16 ` Hugh Dickins
2026-08-27 9:20 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-24 14:25 ` [PATCH 14/25] mm/fbatch: no lru_add_drain() nor _all() for memfd_wait_for_pins() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:27 ` [PATCH 15/25] mm/fbatch: remove shake_folio() shake_page() from memory-failure Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:30 ` [PATCH 16/25] mm/fbatch: remove lru_cache_disable(() from NUMA folio migration Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:32 ` [PATCH 17/25] mm/fbatch: no lru_cache_disable() in __alloc_contig_migrate_range() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:34 ` [PATCH 18/25] mm/fbatch: remove lru_add_drain() and _all() calls from various Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:36 ` [PATCH 19/25] mm/fbatch: vm/stat_refresh include lru_add_drain() on each cpu Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:39 ` [PATCH 20/25] s390/fbatch: no lru_add_drain_all() in s390_wiggle_split_folio() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-26 13:57 ` Claudio Imbrenda
2026-08-27 8:49 ` Hugh Dickins
2026-08-27 12:55 ` Claudio Imbrenda
2026-08-27 20:26 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-28 8:57 ` Hugh Dickins
2026-08-28 15:02 ` Claudio Imbrenda
2026-08-28 22:02 ` Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:41 ` [PATCH 21/25] block/fbatch: no lru_add_drain_all() in invalidate_bdev() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:44 ` [PATCH 22/25] fs/fbatch: drop_caches invalidate_bh_lrus() not lru_add_drain_all() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:47 ` [PATCH 23/25] fs,mm/fbatch: use invalidate_bh_lrus() not invalidate_bh_lrus_cpu() Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:49 ` [PATCH 24/25] fs,mm/fbatch: lru_cache_disable() keep off buffer_head lrus only Hugh Dickins
2026-08-24 14:51 ` [PATCH 25/25] mm/fbatch: move lru_add_drain_all() declaration to mm/internal.h Hugh Dickins
2026-08-27 17:16 ` [PATCH 00/25] mm/fbatch: drain lru_add_drain() and _all() David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-02 3:54 ` [PATCH 26/25] mm/fbatch: drop reference inside the loop when draining Hugh Dickins
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