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From: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Nico Pache <nico.pache@linux.dev>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>, Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>,
	Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/3] kselftest: mm: fix some failure of split_huge_page_test
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2026 12:35:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aqKWFihYpLrLILcZ@e129823.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9750125c-49b4-48b1-adab-3a1cbec4255a@kernel.org>

On Thu, Sep 10, 2026 at 01:23:15PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 9/10/26 13:16, Yeoreum Yun wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2026 at 12:45:39PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> >> On 9/10/26 12:31, Yeoreum Yun wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Well, users currently for using /proc/self/smaps are for check vm-flags:
> >>>   - guard-regions where using check_vmflags_guard()
> >>>   - pfnmap test where uses check_vmflag_pfnmap()
> >>
> >> Most vm-flags should not be an issue when it comes to merging. The only
> >> exception are vmflags that do not prevent VMA merging.
> >>
> >> So it's VM_SOFTDIRTY and VM_MAYBE_GUARD. And I agree that for guard-regions.c we
> >> likely have to care such that we don't merge by accident with other VMAs (guard
> >> regions).
> >>
> >> But that's independent of memalign.
> >>
> >> ptr = mmap_(self, variant, NULL, 10 * page_size, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, 0, 0);
> >> ASSERT_FALSE(check_vmflag_guard(ptr));
> >>
> >> could be problematic on its own (unlikely but possible).
> > 
> > Yes. That's why I'm think it would be good to use alloc_isolated_mem()
> > in case of ANON mapping for this case.
> 
> It's really only guest-region code that needs this.
> 
> > 
> >>
> >> For other flags, you really only have to find the smaps area that covers the
> >> given address and look at the vm-flags.
> >>
> >> Or am I missing something important?
> >>
> >> (merging vnas with VM_PFNMAP is impossible right now IIRC)
> > 
> > No. what I want to say including the patch #3 is for the above case
> > where you point out -- ASSERT_FALSE(check_vmflag_guard(ptr)).
> > 
> > Since we don't have any interface to check vm_flags execpt smap
> > and for memory mmaped with anon would have a chance to merge,
> > We need something to replace memalign() with preventing unexpected VMA
> > merge. 
> Only for the cases that actually really needs this, which is in my understanding
> guard-regions.
> 
> And I repeat, this is not a memalign() problem.

Yes. I'm not claim memalign() is problem but want to prevent unwanted
VMA merge. That's all.

And as I mentioned in another reply, if we get rid of
ASSERT_FALSE(check_vmflag_guard(ptr)), this patch would be droppable.

-- 
Sincerely,
Yeoreum Yun

      reply	other threads:[~2026-09-10 11:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-07  8:19 [PATCH v5 0/3] kselftest: mm: fix some failure of split_huge_page_test Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-07  8:19 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] kselftest: mm: prevent random failure of huge page split for khugepaged Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 10:15   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-07  8:19 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] kselftest: mm: replace usage of /proc/self/smaps for check_huge_xxx() helper Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 10:20   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 10:54     ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 10:59       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 11:25         ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 11:27           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 11:31             ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-07  8:19 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] kselftest: mm: introduce alloc_isolated_mem() Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 10:34   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 11:02     ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 11:14       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 11:22         ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 11:24           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 11:30             ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 11:55               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 12:16                 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 12:22                   ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 12:25                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 12:34                     ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 13:14                       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 13:52                         ` ;, Re: ;, [PATCH v5 3/3] kselftest: ;, mm: introducealloc_isolated_mem; Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 10:15 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] kselftest: mm: fix some failure of split_huge_page_test David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 10:31   ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 10:45     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 11:16       ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 11:23         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 11:35           ` Yeoreum Yun [this message]

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