From: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: "Chris Li" <chrisl@kernel.org>, "Nhat Pham" <nphamcs@gmail.com>,
"Rik van Riel" <riel@surriel.com>,
"Baoquan He" <baoquan.he@linux.dev>,
"Kairui Song" <kasong@tencent.com>,
"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
"Yosry Ahmed" <yosry@kernel.org>,
"David Hildenbrand" <david@kernel.org>,
"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
"Kemeng Shi" <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
"Barry Song" <baohua@kernel.org>,
"YoungJun Park" <youngjun.park@lge.com>,
"Chengming Zhou" <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
"Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)" <ljs@kernel.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
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"Mike Rapoport" <rppt@kernel.org>,
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"Qi Zheng" <qi.zheng@linux.dev>,
"Axel Rasmussen" <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
"Yuanchu Xie" <yuanchu@google.com>, "Wei Xu" <weixugc@google.com>,
"Gregory Price" <gourry@gourry.net>,
"Wenchao Hao" <haowenchao22@gmail.com>,
"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
"Hugh Dickins" <hughd@google.com>,
"Baolin Wang" <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
"Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>, "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
"Shuah Khan" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Kunwu Chan" <kunwu.chan@linux.dev>,
"Meta kernel team" <kernel-team@meta.com>,
"Linux Memory Management List" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
"open list:CONTROL GROUP - MEMORY RESOURCE CONTROLLER (MEMCG)"
<cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Joshua Hahn" <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Path forward for Virtualized Swap?
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2026 04:20:51 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <arbUA-XwLBsty34_@KASONG-MC4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <arbGo3QTYlUD5cVW@linux.dev>
On Fri, Sep 25, 2026 at 12:36:46PM +0800, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2026 at 09:15:17PM +0800, Kairui Song wrote:
> [...]
>
> Thanks Kairui for very clear description of what you want and looking for.
> After reading your email, I think you want memsw support in v2. Currently you
> somehow are implementing memsw using memory.current and memory.swap.current.
> (I am assuming you need to subtract swapcache to avoid double counting.)
> To conclude, you want to use vswap (the aim is it to default) but you still want
> your way to implementing memsw keep working.
>
> Please correct me if I missed something.
>
> I am wondering if you really want memsw, why not propose memsw. Someone from
> tencent proposed memsw [1] previously, so why not continue that effort? I am
> pretty sure folks from Google (people who actually work on prodkernel there)
> will be happy to collaborate with you on that.
Hi Shakeel,
Right, I believe it is still being proposes as you can see there are some
previous progress, year that work need updated, let me try to do something
about it.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/20250319064148.774406-1-jingxiangzeng.cas@gmail.com/
>
> Setting aside the memsw conversation, I think we should go back to the actual
> vswap conversation and list down what we agree on and where we still need
> discussion and decision. (I will take a stab at it and start a separate thread
> but still on this email and will use AI for the summary.)
Right, the things here is that I think it's not hard to see that
memory.current / memory.swap and memsw (if in V2) is tangled with each
other so I'm hope we won't create blocker for the future.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-25 20:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 176+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-04 21:14 Path forward for Virtualized Swap? Nhat Pham
2026-09-07 5:51 ` Kairui Song
2026-09-08 16:36 ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-11 16:09 ` Kairui Song
2026-09-11 16:57 ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-11 18:14 ` Kairui Song
2026-09-11 19:03 ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-12 8:47 ` Kairui Song
2026-09-14 16:49 ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-08 18:30 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-09 16:41 ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-09 17:47 ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-12 9:00 ` Kairui Song
2026-09-12 11:51 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-19 7:23 ` Chris Li
2026-09-20 1:06 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21 0:18 ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 0:35 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21 0:53 ` Chris Li
2026-09-14 16:10 ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-10 23:27 ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-07 11:30 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-08 16:45 ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-10 10:56 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 16:22 ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-10 17:57 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-11 16:20 ` Kairui Song
2026-09-11 16:56 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-14 15:00 ` Baoquan He
2026-09-19 6:50 ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 18:55 ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-22 13:38 ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 14:43 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-22 14:56 ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:07 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-22 15:30 ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:45 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-23 6:44 ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:46 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-22 15:28 ` Baoquan He
2026-09-25 18:47 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-10-05 11:06 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-07 16:47 ` Nhat Pham
2026-10-07 16:54 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-10-09 17:40 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-10-13 5:26 ` Chris Li
2026-10-14 17:17 ` Kairui Song
2026-10-14 18:46 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-14 19:11 ` Nhat Pham
2026-10-14 20:24 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-10-13 16:58 ` Kairui Song
2026-10-13 17:01 ` Nhat Pham
2026-10-14 1:30 ` Baoquan He
2026-10-14 19:53 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-10-19 12:24 ` Nhat Pham
2026-10-19 12:28 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-19 12:35 ` Nhat Pham
2026-10-21 7:41 ` Chris Li
2026-10-21 8:18 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-21 9:06 ` Baoquan He
2026-10-21 20:59 ` Huan Nguyen
2026-10-22 12:00 ` Youngjun Park
2026-10-21 9:42 ` Barry Song
2026-10-23 17:24 ` Nhat Pham
2026-10-23 18:48 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-10-23 18:49 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-10-23 20:03 ` Rik van Riel
2026-10-23 20:25 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-10-23 21:52 ` Gregory Price (Meta)
2026-10-23 22:38 ` Nhat Pham
2026-10-24 15:50 ` Kairui Song
2026-10-24 18:16 ` Rik van Riel
2026-10-24 20:48 ` Gregory Price (Meta)
2026-10-25 4:21 ` Kairui Song
2026-10-26 15:58 ` Rik van Riel
2026-10-28 7:38 ` Kairui Song
2026-10-26 16:01 ` Nhat Pham
2026-10-28 7:42 ` Kairui Song
2026-10-28 18:50 ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-10 7:09 ` Baoquan He
2026-09-10 16:39 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-11 13:06 ` Baoquan He
2026-09-11 16:45 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-15 5:48 ` Baoquan He
2026-09-15 6:44 ` Baoquan He
2026-09-19 6:55 ` Chris Li
2026-09-19 16:15 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-19 21:21 ` Chris Li
2026-09-19 22:50 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21 0:13 ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 17:54 ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-23 7:44 ` Chris Li
2026-09-23 16:30 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-24 11:27 ` Chris Li
2026-09-24 13:15 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-25 13:15 ` Kairui Song
2026-09-25 15:41 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-25 19:21 ` Kairui Song
2026-09-25 20:20 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-26 21:27 ` Chris Li
2026-09-27 0:58 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-27 6:23 ` Chris Li
2026-09-27 12:29 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-27 16:17 ` Chris Li
2026-09-27 18:12 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-27 23:50 ` Chris Li
2026-09-25 16:11 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-25 20:44 ` Kairui Song
2026-09-25 21:30 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-25 21:53 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-25 16:54 ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-25 20:26 ` Kairui Song
2026-09-28 12:38 ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-25 19:36 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-25 20:20 ` Kairui Song [this message]
2026-09-19 7:07 ` Chris Li
2026-09-10 17:03 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-11 12:27 ` Baoquan He
2026-09-11 16:21 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-19 8:45 ` Chris Li
2026-09-19 16:08 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-19 19:02 ` Chris Li
2026-09-20 1:14 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-20 1:53 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-21 9:43 ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 12:53 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-21 16:11 ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 17:14 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-22 17:21 ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-23 7:20 ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 17:31 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-23 7:32 ` Chris Li
2026-09-23 13:55 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-21 14:06 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21 16:15 ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 15:16 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21 16:31 ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 16:36 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21 18:10 ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 18:52 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-22 13:32 ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 14:59 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-22 15:23 ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:43 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-23 6:10 ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:48 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-23 7:00 ` Chris Li
2026-09-23 14:21 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-22 17:32 ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-23 7:37 ` Chris Li
2026-09-23 14:11 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-23 15:39 ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-22 15:20 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-22 15:43 ` Chris Li
2026-09-22 15:52 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-23 7:10 ` Chris Li
2026-09-23 12:52 ` Klara Modin
2026-09-23 15:43 ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-23 17:26 ` Klara Modin
2026-09-24 5:51 ` Baoquan He
2026-09-24 7:20 ` Klara Modin
2026-09-24 7:53 ` Baoquan He
2026-09-21 10:01 ` Kairui Song
2026-09-21 13:27 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-21 15:27 ` Rik van Riel
2026-09-21 15:48 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-21 16:32 ` Chris Li
2026-09-21 17:02 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-23 9:39 ` Baoquan He
2026-09-23 12:11 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-24 11:02 ` Chris Li
2026-09-24 14:18 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-23 14:34 ` Kairui Song
2026-09-21 18:11 ` Nhat Pham
2026-09-22 17:16 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-09-10 17:16 ` Nhat Pham
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