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From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Li Zhe <lizhe.67@bytedance.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org,  ljs@kernel.org, liam@infradead.org,
	rppt@kernel.org, mhocko@suse.com,  corbet@lwn.net,
	skhan@linuxfoundation.org, ziy@nvidia.com,
	 joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com, ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com,
	apopple@nvidia.com,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/numa_balancing: allow migrate on protnone reference with MPOL_WEIGHTED_INTERLEAVE policy
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2026 08:03:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <arz56nVu8TzSjqlg@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cfdcaaa3-a9e7-4352-ab01-4922ebb8e0c9@kernel.org>

On Wed, Sep 30, 2026 at 01:26:17PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> > 
> > Initial placement is only a starting point.  Pages initially allocated on
> > fast memory are not necessarily the long-term hot pages, and pages
> > initially allocated on slower memory may become hot as the workload's hot
> > set changes.  The policy therefore needs to be able to combine weighted
> > initial placement with memory tiering's NUMA fault based hot-page
> > promotion.
> 
> Ok, so memory allocation will respect the weights but balancing will ignore
> them? That really sounds rather odd to me.
> 
> And I assume that was the reason why we might have disallowed the combination:
> it turns a weighted mechanism into an unweighted mechanism.
> 
> So are we really sure these semantics that you would essentially set in stone
> here are the semantics we want? (ignoring weights)
>

Right, but you're requesting this configuration.  If you didn't set
F_NUMA_BALANCING then you get the existing semantics.

In the existing semantics, if we're INTERLEAVE and WEIGHTED_INTERLEAVE
we just always say "no tiering for you".

But as an opt-in option?  I don't quite see the argument for saying
interleaved regions (or tasks) to be opted-out if the user asks for it -
that just seems like an arbitrary limitation.

~Gregory


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-09-30 12:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-30  7:26 [PATCH] mm/numa_balancing: allow migrate on protnone reference with MPOL_WEIGHTED_INTERLEAVE policy Li Zhe
2026-09-30  8:43 ` Gregory Price
2026-09-30  8:59   ` Li Zhe
2026-09-30  9:11     ` Gregory Price
2026-09-30 10:59       ` Joshua Hahn
2026-09-30 11:22       ` Li Zhe
2026-09-30 12:25         ` Gregory Price
2026-10-02  7:25           ` Li Zhe
2026-09-30 11:26 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-30 11:52   ` Li Zhe
2026-09-30 12:11     ` Joshua Hahn
2026-09-30 14:02       ` Li Zhe
2026-09-30 14:50         ` Gregory Price
2026-09-30 15:10           ` Zi Yan
2026-10-01 10:54             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-01 11:18               ` Zi Yan
2026-10-01 13:26               ` Gregory Price
2026-10-02  7:56                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-02  8:15                   ` Li Zhe
2026-10-02 12:05                     ` Gregory Price
2026-09-30 12:03   ` Gregory Price [this message]
2026-09-30 12:32     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-30 13:40       ` Gregory Price
2026-10-01 10:55         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)

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