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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
Cc: Lisa Wang <wyihan@google.com>,
	Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>,
	 Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>,
	Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>,
	 Chenyi Qiang <chenyi.qiang@intel.com>,
	Erdem Aktas <erdemaktas@google.com>,
	 Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Pratik R. Sampat" <pratikrajesh.sampat@amd.com>,
	 Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	Roger Wang <runanwang@google.com>,
	 Ryan Afranji <afranji@google.com>,
	Sagi Shahar <sagis@google.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ashish Kalra <ashish.kalra@amd.com>,
	 Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v14 13/22] KVM: selftests: Support guest_memfd in-place conversion
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2026 09:06:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <as0FedYcvJvdOaq2@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <asz8GKNO9aQANr5E@google.com>

+Ashish, Tom and Mike, dropped a bunch of others that probably don't care about
the CCP/PSP driver.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2026, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2026, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
> > On 7/23/2026 7:13 AM, Lisa Wang wrote:
> > > -	flags = 0;
> > > -	if (is_guest_memfd_required(shape))
> > > +	if (is_guest_memfd_required(shape)) {
> > >   		flags |= KVM_MEM_GUEST_MEMFD;
> > > +		if (kvm_has_gmem_attributes)
> > > +			gmem_flags |= GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_INIT_SHARED |
> > > +				      GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_MMAP;
> > > +	}
> > > -	vm_userspace_mem_region_add(vm, VM_MEM_SRC_ANONYMOUS, 0, 0, nr_pages, flags);
> > > +	vm_mem_add(vm, VM_MEM_SRC_ANONYMOUS, 0, 0, nr_pages, flags,
> > > +		   -1, 0, gmem_flags);
> > >   	for (i = 0; i < NR_MEM_REGIONS; i++)
> > >   		vm->memslots[i] = 0;
> > 
> > IMO, this diff belongs to the gmem in-place series.
> 
> Yep, you're 100% right.  I pushed this to "coco" for now...
> 
> diff --git tools/testing/selftests/kvm/lib/kvm_util.c tools/testing/selftests/kvm/lib/kvm_util.c
> index 3f559f207408..0c67d964a9aa 100644
> --- tools/testing/selftests/kvm/lib/kvm_util.c
> +++ tools/testing/selftests/kvm/lib/kvm_util.c
> @@ -494,6 +494,7 @@ struct kvm_vm *__vm_create(struct vm_shape shape, u32 nr_runnable_vcpus,
>         u64 nr_pages = vm_nr_pages_required(shape.mode, nr_runnable_vcpus,
>                                                  nr_extra_pages);
>         struct userspace_mem_region *slot0;
> +       u64 gmem_flags = 0;
>         struct kvm_vm *vm;
>         int i, flags;
>  
> @@ -509,10 +510,20 @@ struct kvm_vm *__vm_create(struct vm_shape shape, u32 nr_runnable_vcpus,
>          * for CoCo VMs that require GUEST_MEMFD backed private memory.
>          */
>         flags = 0;
> -       if (is_guest_memfd_required(shape))
> +       if (is_guest_memfd_required(shape)) {
>                 flags |= KVM_MEM_GUEST_MEMFD;
>  
> -       vm_userspace_mem_region_add(vm, VM_MEM_SRC_ANONYMOUS, 0, 0, nr_pages, flags);
> +               /*
> +                * Allow mmap() and initialize the gmem instance as SHARED if
> +                * in-place conversions are supported, so that the memory can
> +                * be populated/initialized like any other memory region.
> +                */
> +               if (kvm_has_gmem_attributes)
> +                       gmem_flags |= GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_INIT_SHARED |
> +                                     GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_MMAP;
> +       }
> +
> +       vm_mem_add(vm, VM_MEM_SRC_ANONYMOUS, 0, 0, nr_pages, flags, -1, 0, gmem_flags);
>         for (i = 0; i < NR_MEM_REGIONS; i++)
>                 vm->memslots[i] = 0;
> 
> but the entire in-place conversion series may need to be dropped because there's
> a potential deadlock, and I don't see an obviously non-awful way to fix it.

The underlying problem is that drivers/crypto/ccp/sev-dev.c does memory allocations
and copy_{to,from}_user() while holding sev_cmd_mutex in a variety of locations.

I genuinely think the right fix is to not do that, i.e. to perform invasive surgery
on the driver so that it holds sev_cmd_mutex only for the operations that really
truly need its protection.  Because taking page faults while holding a *system*-wide
lock is asking for trouble.  Deadlock aside, if one of the user pages being accessed
happens to be swapped out, tasks could be blocked on sev_cmd_mutex for quite some
time waiting for the page to come back from disk or wherever.  Rinse and repeat, and
I wouldn't be surprised if VM creation/boot can stall for hundreds of milliseconds
or worse.

The alternative would be to take sev_cmd_mutex around the kvm_gmem_populate() call
in snp_launch_update(), but even if the CPP maintainers were willing to provide hooks
to allow that, I'm not willing to take such a hack in KVM.

So, very sadly, I think in-place conversion is dead for 7.4, and will need to be
revived on top of an overhaul of sev_cmd_mutex locking.

Or I guess maybe a less painful temporary workaround would be to disable support
for SNP if in-place conversion is enabled.  That would avoid extending the in-place
conversion bottleneck for TDX, pKVM, and CCA, without having to take a gross hack
to make SNP play nice.

E.g. this as a workaround for 7.4 (not yet tested)

diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c b/arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c
index fad72cab76cf..df885b8214d4 100644
--- a/arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c
+++ b/arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c
@@ -3213,6 +3213,14 @@ void __init sev_hardware_setup(void)
 	sev_snp_supported = sev_snp_enabled && cc_platform_has(CC_ATTR_HOST_SEV_SNP);
 
 out:
+	/*
+	 * FIXME: Allow SNP with in-place guest_memfd conversion once the PSP
+	 * driver no longer takes its global mutex outside of mmap_lock (which
+	 * leads to deadlock with sev_gmem_post_populate()).
+	 */
+	if (gmem_in_place_conversion)
+		sev_snp_supported = false;
+
 	if (sev_enabled) {
 		init_args.probe = true;
 
> [ 2260.466972] ======================================================
> [ 2260.473150] WARNING: possible circular locking dependency detected
> [ 2260.479329] 7.3.0-smp--ce115a0096358-seanjc-soink #75 Tainted: G     U     O       
> [ 2260.486981] ------------------------------------------------------
> [ 2260.493161] sev_snp_vmsa_pu/24505 is trying to acquire lock:
> [ 2260.498821] ffffffffc01f7900 (sev_cmd_mutex){+.+.}-{4:4}, at: sev_issue_cmd_external_user+0x39/0x60 [ccp]
> [ 2260.508387] 
>                but task is already holding lock:
> [ 2260.514213] ffff93c9dd1cf070 (mapping.invalidate_lock#4){++++}-{4:4}, at: kvm_gmem_populate+0x18c/0x300 [kvm]
> [ 2260.524275] 
>                which lock already depends on the new lock.
> 
> [ 2260.532446] 
>                the existing dependency chain (in reverse order) is:
> [ 2260.539917] 
>                -> #2 (mapping.invalidate_lock#4){++++}-{4:4}:
> [ 2260.546878]        down_read+0x3d/0x160
> [ 2260.550716]        kvm_gmem_fault_user_mapping+0x43/0x180 [kvm]
> [ 2260.556663]        __do_fault+0x3f/0x110
> [ 2260.560588]        do_pte_missing+0x515/0x1000
> [ 2260.565035]        handle_mm_fault+0x7f2/0x1290
> [ 2260.569567]        do_user_addr_fault+0x47d/0x6c0
> [ 2260.574271]        exc_page_fault+0x67/0xa0
> [ 2260.578458]        asm_exc_page_fault+0x26/0x30
> [ 2260.582991] 
>                -> #1 (&mm->mmap_lock){++++}-{4:4}:
> [ 2260.588997]        __might_fault+0x59/0x80
> [ 2260.593096]        _copy_to_user+0x23/0x60
> [ 2260.597197]        sev_ioctl_do_platform_status+0x50/0x80 [ccp]
> [ 2260.603116]        sev_ioctl+0x220/0x2b0 [ccp]
> [ 2260.607560]        __se_sys_ioctl+0x6d/0xb0
> [ 2260.611749]        do_syscall_64+0xfe/0x460
> [ 2260.615933]        entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x4b/0x53
> [ 2260.621506] 
>                -> #0 (sev_cmd_mutex){+.+.}-{4:4}:
> [ 2260.627426]        __lock_acquire+0x160d/0x2940
> [ 2260.631957]        lock_acquire+0xf1/0x300
> [ 2260.636050]        __mutex_lock+0x8f/0xdf0
> [ 2260.640147]        sev_issue_cmd_external_user+0x39/0x60 [ccp]
> [ 2260.645982]        sev_gmem_post_populate+0x189/0x230 [kvm_amd]
> [ 2260.651901]        kvm_gmem_populate+0x1ed/0x300 [kvm]
> [ 2260.657066]        snp_launch_update+0x1a7/0x250 [kvm_amd]
> [ 2260.662551]        sev_mem_enc_ioctl+0x371/0x3d0 [kvm_amd]
> [ 2260.668036]        kvm_vm_ioctl+0x52c/0x580 [kvm]
> [ 2260.672761]        __se_sys_ioctl+0x6d/0xb0
> [ 2260.676946]        do_syscall_64+0xfe/0x460
> [ 2260.681133]        entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x4b/0x53
> [ 2260.686706] 
>                other info that might help us debug this:
> 
> [ 2260.694695] Chain exists of:
>                  sev_cmd_mutex --> &mm->mmap_lock --> mapping.invalidate_lock#4
> 
> [ 2260.706077]  Possible unsafe locking scenario:
> 
> [ 2260.711993]        CPU0                    CPU1
> [ 2260.716520]        ----                    ----
> [ 2260.721052]   lock(mapping.invalidate_lock#4);
> [ 2260.725498]                                lock(&mm->mmap_lock);
> [ 2260.731503]                                lock(mapping.invalidate_lock#4);
> [ 2260.738463]   lock(sev_cmd_mutex);
> [ 2260.741868] 
>                 *** DEADLOCK ***
> 
> [ 2260.747778] locks held by sev_snp_vmsa_pu/24505: 3, last CPU#35:
> [ 2260.753785]  #0: ffff93c9d54bd3a8 (&kvm->lock){+.+.}-{4:4}, at: sev_mem_enc_ioctl+0x73/0x3d0 [kvm_amd]
> [ 2260.763083]  #1: ffff93c9d54bc0a0 (&kvm->slots_lock){+.+.}-{4:4}, at: snp_launch_update+0x145/0x250 [kvm_amd]
> [ 2260.772991]  #2: ffff93c9dd1cf070 (mapping.invalidate_lock#4){++++}-{4:4}, at: kvm_gmem_populate+0x18c/0x300 [kvm]
> [ 2260.783356] 
>                stack backtrace:
> [ 2260.787718] CPU: 35 UID: 0 PID: 24505 Comm: sev_snp_vmsa_pu Tainted: G     U     O        7.3.0-smp--ce115a0096358-seanjc-soink #75 PREEMPT 
> [ 2260.800310] Tainted: [U]=USER, [O]=OOT_MODULE
> [ 2260.804668] Hardware name: Google, Inc.                                                       Arcadia_IT_80/Arcadia_IT_80, BIOS 34.86.0-102 01/25/2026
> [ 2260.818127] Call Trace:
> [ 2260.820579]  <TASK>
> [ 2260.822687]  dump_stack_lvl+0x54/0x70
> [ 2260.826351]  print_circular_bug+0x2e4/0x300
> [ 2260.830537]  check_noncircular+0xf5/0x120
> [ 2260.834553]  __lock_acquire+0x160d/0x2940
> [ 2260.838565]  ? __lock_acquire+0x65e/0x2940
> [ 2260.842664]  ? rcu_is_watching+0x11/0x40
> [ 2260.846587]  ? trace_sched_exit_tp+0x25/0xb0
> [ 2260.850861]  lock_acquire+0xf1/0x300
> [ 2260.854440]  ? sev_issue_cmd_external_user+0x39/0x60 [ccp]
> [ 2260.859928]  ? lock_is_held_type+0xc7/0x120
> [ 2260.864112]  ? sev_issue_cmd_external_user+0x39/0x60 [ccp]
> [ 2260.869599]  __mutex_lock+0x8f/0xdf0
> [ 2260.873178]  ? sev_issue_cmd_external_user+0x39/0x60 [ccp]
> [ 2260.878663]  ? pfn_valid+0x89/0x220
> [ 2260.882155]  ? pfn_valid+0x1fb/0x220
> [ 2260.885736]  ? lookup_address+0x49/0x70
> [ 2260.889577]  sev_issue_cmd_external_user+0x39/0x60 [ccp]
> [ 2260.894890]  sev_gmem_post_populate+0x189/0x230 [kvm_amd]
> [ 2260.900289]  kvm_gmem_populate+0x1ed/0x300 [kvm]
> [ 2260.904938]  ? snp_bind_asid+0xd0/0xd0 [kvm_amd]
> [ 2260.909561]  snp_launch_update+0x1a7/0x250 [kvm_amd]
> [ 2260.914528]  sev_mem_enc_ioctl+0x371/0x3d0 [kvm_amd]
> [ 2260.919493]  kvm_vm_ioctl+0x52c/0x580 [kvm]
> [ 2260.923706]  ? kvm_gmem_ioctl+0x192/0x1e0 [kvm]
> [ 2260.928266]  __se_sys_ioctl+0x6d/0xb0
> [ 2260.931930]  do_syscall_64+0xfe/0x460
> [ 2260.935595]  ? entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x4b/0x53
> [ 2260.940822]  ? trace_irq_disable+0x25/0xc0
> [ 2260.944921]  entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x4b/0x53
> [ 2260.949972] RIP: 0033:0x474bdb
> [ 2260.953031] Code: 00 48 89 44 24 18 31 c0 48 8d 44 24 60 c7 04 24 10 00 00 00 48 89 44 24 08 48 8d 44 24 20 48 89 44 24 10 b8 10 00 00 00 0f 05 <89> c2 3d 00 f0 ff ff 77 1c 48 8b 44 24 18 64 48 2b 04 25 28 00 00
> [ 2260.971770] RSP: 002b:00007ffd188ac3f0 EFLAGS: 00000246 ORIG_RAX: 0000000000000010
> [ 2260.979337] RAX: ffffffffffffffda RBX: 0000000028691b30 RCX: 0000000000474bdb
> [ 2260.986468] RDX: 00007ffd188ac4a0 RSI: 00000000c008aeba RDI: 0000000000000007
> [ 2260.993600] RBP: 0000000000135000 R08: 00000000004d50b8 R09: 00000000004e1b78
> [ 2261.000734] R10: 0000000000000002 R11: 0000000000000246 R12: 00007ffd188ac4c0
> [ 2261.007867] R13: 0000000000137000 R14: 0000000028693db0 R15: 0000000000137000
> [ 2261.015001]  </TASK>
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-12 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-22 23:13 [PATCH v14 00/22] TDX KVM selftests Lisa Wang
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 01/22] KVM: selftests: Add macros to simplify creating VM shapes for non-default types Lisa Wang
2026-08-19  7:44   ` Peter Fang
2026-09-08 16:58   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 02/22] KVM: selftests: Update kvm_init_vm_address_properties() for TDX Lisa Wang
2026-08-13 23:17   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-08 17:42     ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 03/22] KVM: selftests: Initialize the TDX VM Lisa Wang
2026-07-23  8:44   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-13 23:41     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-15  9:17       ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-08  8:04     ` Lisa Wang
2026-09-08 18:08       ` Ackerley Tng
2026-09-09 10:00         ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-18  1:40           ` Lisa Wang
2026-08-13 23:41   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-14 21:18     ` Peter Fang
2026-08-20  8:46   ` Peter Fang
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 04/22] KVM: selftests: TDX: Use KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES to validate TDs' attribute configuration Lisa Wang
2026-08-13 23:45   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-08 19:06     ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 05/22] KVM: selftests: Expose segment definitions to assembly files Lisa Wang
2026-08-13 23:50   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-08 19:03   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 06/22] tools: include: Add kbuild.h for assembly structure offsets Lisa Wang
2026-09-08 19:01   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 07/22] KVM: selftests: Introduce structures for TDX guest boot parameters Lisa Wang
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 08/22] KVM: selftests: Add TDX boot code Lisa Wang
2026-07-23 11:17   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-21  5:16   ` Peter Fang
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 09/22] KVM: selftests: Expose functions to get default sregs values Lisa Wang
2026-07-23 10:19   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-14  0:44   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-14  2:36     ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-14 15:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 10/22] KVM: selftests: Set up TDX boot code region Lisa Wang
2026-07-23 10:24   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-24 19:27   ` Peter Fang
2026-08-24 20:00     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-26  8:31       ` Peter Fang
2026-08-28 20:14       ` Lisa Wang
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 11/22] KVM: selftests: Set up TDX boot parameters region Lisa Wang
2026-07-23 10:34   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-11  6:32   ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-25  8:14   ` Peter Fang
2026-09-08 19:18     ` Ackerley Tng
2026-09-17  9:12       ` Peter Fang
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 12/22] KVM: selftests: Require guest_memfd for TDX VMs Lisa Wang
2026-08-11  7:43   ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-14  7:42   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-25 22:04     ` Lisa Wang
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 13/22] KVM: selftests: Support guest_memfd in-place conversion Lisa Wang
2026-08-18  8:17   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-12 15:26     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-10-12 16:06       ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-10-12 19:53         ` Michael Roth
2026-10-12 20:09           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-10-12 20:15             ` Michael Roth
2026-10-12 19:55         ` Ackerley Tng
2026-10-12 20:13           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-25 21:53   ` Peter Fang
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 14/22] KVM: selftests: Expose function to allocate vCPU stack Lisa Wang
2026-08-14  8:10   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 15/22] KVM: selftests: Call KVM_TDX_INIT_VCPU when creating a new TDX vcpu Lisa Wang
2026-08-14  8:32   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-18  8:58     ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-26 21:22     ` Peter Fang
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 16/22] KVM: selftests: Load per-vCPU guest stack in TDX boot parameters Lisa Wang
2026-08-14  8:39   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-26 22:17   ` Peter Fang
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 17/22] KVM: selftests: Set entry point for TDX guest code Lisa Wang
2026-08-14  8:43   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-18  9:04   ` Binbin Wu
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 18/22] KVM: selftests: Add helpers to init TDX memory and finalize VM Lisa Wang
2026-08-17  6:47   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-17 13:52     ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-18  7:33       ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-08 23:12         ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 19/22] KVM: selftests: Finalize TD memory as part of kvm_arch_vm_finalize_vcpus Lisa Wang
2026-08-17  7:04   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-08 23:24     ` Ackerley Tng
2026-09-17  9:16       ` Peter Fang
2026-08-27  7:51   ` Peter Fang
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 20/22] KVM: selftests: Implement MMIO WRITE for the TDX VM Lisa Wang
2026-07-28 22:56   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-17  8:56   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-27  9:19   ` Peter Fang
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 21/22] KVM: selftests: Add ucall support for TDX Lisa Wang
2026-08-17  8:38   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-28  2:06     ` Peter Fang
2026-08-28  2:31       ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-28  4:20         ` Peter Fang
2026-08-28 14:18           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-31 22:10             ` Peter Fang
2026-09-09 10:59             ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-07-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v14 22/22] KVM: selftests: Add TDX lifecycle test Lisa Wang
2026-08-17  9:04   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-08-28  4:33   ` Peter Fang
2026-08-13 22:47 ` [PATCH v14 00/22] TDX KVM selftests Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-13 23:05   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-17  4:19     ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-17 17:54       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-08 21:16         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-10  1:28           ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-10-12 15:51             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-28 18:30     ` Lisa Wang

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