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From: Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Rodolfo Giometti <giometti@enneenne.com>,
	Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/4] pps: Always use ktime_get_snapshot_id() for pps_get_ts()
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2026 11:16:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <asNq1o8TmdNdG45T@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dd7a873caecab6c912e2c0f910d1e46818ea455d.camel@infradead.org>

On Fri, Oct 02, 2026 at 02:44:41PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
>   ┌──────────────────────────────┬─────┬──────┬──────┬──────┬─────┐
>   │ capture method               │ p50 │  p95 │  p99 │  max │   σ │
>   ├──────────────────────────────┼─────┼──────┼──────┼──────┼─────┤
>   │ pps-gpio (IRQ)               │  84 │ 1206 │ 4013 │ 4889 │ 688 │
>   │ polling, stamp after edge    │ 206 │  536 │  665 │ 1106 │ 286 │
>   │ polling, bracketed counter   │ 206 │  545 │  647 │  811 │ 286 │
>   │ polling, bracketed, raw MMIO │ 135 │  359 │  434 │  564 │ 188 │
>   │ entry.S counter capture      │  46 │  109 │  135 │  206 │  58 │
>   └──────────────────────────────┴─────┴──────┴──────┴──────┴─────┘

The time to read the GPIO heavily depends on the HW. On the MIPS
ar71xx where I was using the polling driver, it was 85 nanoseconds
(the precision logged by the driver when loaded).

> (NB: We should be careful not to forget the common-mode hardware
> latency which could be different for the IRQ paths vs. the polling
> paths. On my list is a test where one CPU polls while the other takes
> the interrupt, so we can compare on the *same* pulse.)

Yes, that is the main advantage of the polling driver that it avoids
all those delays before the actual read of the clock.

Both pps-gpio and pps-gpio-poll can echo the input PPS signal back to
a different GPIO pin, so you could measure how the delays differ with
the two drivers on a scope.

-- 
Miroslav Lichvar


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-10-05  9:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-29 20:56 [PATCH v4 0/4] Add ntp_error to clock snapshot, enable NTP_PPS on tickless kernel David Woodhouse
2026-08-29 20:56 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] timekeeping: Apply extrapolated ntp_error to clock snapshots David Woodhouse
2026-08-29 20:57 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] pps: Drop the !NO_HZ_COMMON dependency from NTP_PPS David Woodhouse
2026-09-01 15:35   ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-02  0:13     ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-28 13:37     ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-28 16:41       ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-28 19:28         ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-29  6:33           ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-29  9:32             ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-29 11:48               ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-29 12:02                 ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-30  1:28                 ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-30 12:57                   ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-30 10:37                 ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-30 12:57                   ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-30 14:05                     ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-30 18:24                       ` David Woodhouse
2026-10-01  8:20                         ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-10-01  9:08                           ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-29 20:57 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] pps: Always use ktime_get_snapshot_id() for pps_get_ts() David Woodhouse
2026-09-01 15:35   ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-01 23:56     ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-26 20:38     ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-28  7:58       ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-28 12:59         ` David Woodhouse
2026-09-28 16:41           ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-10-01 13:14         ` Miroslav Lichvar
2026-10-01 15:38           ` David Woodhouse
2026-10-02  7:04           ` Rodolfo Giometti
2026-10-02  9:07             ` David Woodhouse
2026-10-02 12:29               ` David Woodhouse
2026-10-02 13:44                 ` David Woodhouse
2026-10-03 11:29                   ` David Woodhouse
2026-10-05  9:16                   ` Miroslav Lichvar [this message]
2026-08-29 20:57 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] [DO NOT MERGE] ptp: ptp_vmclock: Add simulated 1PPS support David Woodhouse
2026-09-01 15:35 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] Add ntp_error to clock snapshot, enable NTP_PPS on tickless kernel Rodolfo Giometti
2026-09-01 23:37   ` David Woodhouse

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