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From: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>
Cc: "Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	"Martin KaFai Lau" <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	"Eduard Zingerman" <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
	"Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi" <memxor@gmail.com>,
	"Amery Hung" <ameryhung@gmail.com>,
	"Yonghong Song" <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"Stanislav Fomichev" <sdf@fomichev.me>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@kernel.org>,
	"Neal Cardwell" <ncardwell@google.com>,
	"Willem de Bruijn" <willemb@google.com>,
	"Tenzin Ukyab" <ukyab@berkeley.edu>,
	"Clément Léger" <cleger@meta.com>,
	"Kuniyuki Iwashima" <kuni1840@gmail.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 bpf-next 2/9] bpf: tcp: Add a new per-socket flag and kfunc for bpf_tcp_ops.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2026 15:47:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <asQoUeoXFa2-ofPu@devvm7509.cco0.facebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAVpQUBikn+8Zb_01T5aebhRyhKpHpWFbWHwk-vV=N9S0LCQXA@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/05, Kuniyuki Iwashima wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2026 at 11:30 AM Stanislav Fomichev <sdf.kernel@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 10/05, Kuniyuki Iwashima wrote:
> > > The legacy SOCK_OPS guards some hooks with a per-socket flag,
> > > tp->bpf_sock_ops_cb_flags.
> > >
> > > In contrast, bpf_tcp_ops was initially designed without per-socket
> > > flags so that users can simply define only the callbacks they need.
> > >
> > > However, it turned out that even attaching a bpf_tcp_ops with a NULL
> > > callback incurs measurable overhead in the fast path. [0]
> > >
> > > We could reuse tp->bpf_sock_ops_cb_flags, but it is u8 and has only
> > > 1 bit left for a new opt-in callback, while not all of the 7 existing
> > > opt-in hooks are in the fast path and really need a flag guard.
> > >
> > > Moreover, tp->bpf_sock_ops_cb_flags has two bpf helper functions to
> > > update it, both of which require sock_owned_by_me(sk):
> > >
> > >   * bpf_sock_ops_cb_flags_set()
> > >   * bpf_setsockopt(TCP_BPF_SOCK_OPS_CB_FLAGS)
> >
> > Can we return -EINVAL from these when used with sock_ops?
> 
> bpf_sock_ops_cb_flags_set() is not allowed for bpf_tcp_ops,
> so we could add a check in bpf_setsockopt() for bpf_tcp_ops
> to disallow TCP_BPF_SOCK_OPS_CB_FLAGS.
> 
> But not all of bpf_tcp_ops hooks are opt-in, so we cannot prevent
> attaching bpf_tcp_ops to SOCK_OPS-enabled sockets.
> 
> 
> > If we keep one flag we can presumably put both tcp_call_bpf_Xarg and
> > bpf_tcp_ops_call under the same if conditional?

[..]
 
> I assuemd we will use the new flag only for bpf_tcp_ops and will no
> longer add a new bit to the sock_ops flag and fainlly we can deprecate
> it under a Kconfig like CONFIG_BPF_LEGACY_SOCK_OPS.

Don't think CONFIG_LEGACY is happening :-D I might be overthinking it..
Realistically, maybe something like bubbling up cgroup_bpf_enabled(sock_ops)
is an option as well? So these (old) runtime checks are happening only when
we have sock_ops attached (and/or separate mechanism for struct_ops?). 
But if you don't see anything wrong in your benchmark, let's not overcomplicate.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-05 22:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-05 15:40 [PATCH v3 bpf-next 0/9] bpf: Add bpf_tcp_ops hooks for TCP AutoLOWAT Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-05 15:40 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 1/9] bpf: tcp: Convert deny-list for bpf_{get,set}sockopt() to allow-list Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-05 15:40 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 2/9] bpf: tcp: Add a new per-socket flag and kfunc for bpf_tcp_ops Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-05 15:55   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-05 16:27   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-05 17:26     ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-05 18:30   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-10-05 18:37     ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-05 22:47       ` Stanislav Fomichev [this message]
2026-10-05 23:31         ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-05 21:19   ` Amery Hung
2026-10-05 21:23     ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-05 15:40 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 3/9] selftest: bpf: Use bpf_tcp_ops_set_flags() in bpf_tcp_ops_hdr.c Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-05 15:40 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 4/9] bpf: tcp: Guard fast-path bpf_tcp_ops_call() under per-socket flag Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-05 16:27   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-10-05 19:10   ` Amery Hung
2026-10-05 19:13     ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-05 15:40 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 5/9] bpf: tcp: Introduce bpf_tcp_ops.{enqueue,dequeue}_rcvq() Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-05 15:40 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 6/9] tcp: Split out __tcp_set_rcvlowat() Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-05 15:40 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 7/9] bpf: mptcp: Don't support BPF_TCP_OPS_FLAG_RCVQ Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-05 15:40 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 8/9] bpf: tcp: Add kfunc to adjust sk->sk_rcvlowat Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-10-05 15:40 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 9/9] selftest: bpf: Add test for bpf_tcp_ops.{enqueue,dequeue}_rcvq() Kuniyuki Iwashima

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