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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Naveen N Rao <naveen@kernel.org>
Cc: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	 Nikunj A Dadhania <nikunj@amd.com>,
	Tianyu Lan <tiala@microsoft.com>,
	 Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 02/27] x86/apic: Drop savic_eoi() in favor of native_apic_msr_eoi() for Secure AVIC
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2026 23:16:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <asSSU2huZDlusYdG@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alX59ewiXXSx7J3R@blrnaveerao1>

On Tue, Jul 14, 2026, Naveen N Rao wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2026 at 12:43:45PM -0500, Tom Lendacky wrote:
> > On 7/8/26 01:32, Naveen N Rao (AMD) wrote:
> > > Drop savic_eoi() in favor of using the native helper that writes to the
> > > APIC_EOI MSR. savic_eoi() was added mainly to be able to handle
> > > level-triggered interrupts. However, it relies on APIC_TMR indicating a
> > > vector to be level-triggered, but APIC_TMR can never have a bit set
> > > since it is only updated when the LAPIC accepts a level-triggered
> > > interrupt. In the case of a Secure AVIC SEV-SNP guest, all
> > > level-triggered interrupt sources are in the VMM (emulated IOAPIC
> > > primarily) and KVM accepts them on behalf of the guest resulting in the
> > > APIC_TMR in KVM APIC backing page having a bit set. This is never seen
> > > by the guest, which has its own private APIC backing page. As such, the
> > > savic_eoi() handler is dead code. Remove it.
> > > 
> > > Fixes: 43b6687ac877 ("x86/apic: Handle EOI writes for Secure AVIC guests")
> > > Signed-off-by: Naveen N Rao (AMD) <naveen@kernel.org>
> > 
> > Another guest change which should be separate from this series.
> 
> Yes, I have called this out in the cover letter. I see now that I should 
> have used a better subject for the cover letter though.
> 
> > 
> > Is this causing issues with this hypervisor support or is just code that
> > is never invoked? Do other hypervisors behave the same way and will
> > removing this break them?
> 
> This is code that is never invoked and is independent of the hypervisor.  
> No impact to hypervisor code.

Doesn't that mean level-triggered interrupts are fundamentally incompatible with
Secure AVIC?  I don't see how the emulated I/O APIC will ever get an EOI.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-06  6:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-08  6:31 [RFC PATCH v3 00/27] KVM: SVM: Add support for SEV-SNP Secure AVIC Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:31 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/27] x86/apic: Propagate APIC_SPIV writes to hv for " Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-10  2:03   ` Borislav Petkov
2026-07-10 15:02     ` Naveen N Rao
2026-07-11  4:37       ` Borislav Petkov
2026-07-13 17:38       ` Tom Lendacky
2026-07-14  8:57         ` Naveen N Rao
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/27] x86/apic: Drop savic_eoi() in favor of native_apic_msr_eoi() " Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-13 17:43   ` Tom Lendacky
2026-07-14  9:02     ` Naveen N Rao
2026-10-06  6:16       ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-10-08  7:35         ` Naveen N Rao
2026-10-06  3:20   ` Borislav Petkov
2026-10-08  7:57     ` Naveen N Rao
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/27] x86/kvm: Disable PV_SEND_IPI if Secure AVIC is enabled Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-13 17:52   ` Tom Lendacky
2026-07-14  9:42     ` Naveen N Rao
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/27] x86/apic: Use AVIC_INCOMPLETE_IPI VMGEXIT for Secure AVIC IPI handling Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-13 17:59   ` Tom Lendacky
2026-07-14 10:03     ` Naveen N Rao
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/27] x86/cpufeatures: Add Secure AVIC CPU feature Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-13 18:32   ` Tom Lendacky
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/27] KVM: SVM: Add helper to check if Secure AVIC is enabled for a guest Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-13 18:35   ` Tom Lendacky
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/27] KVM: SVM: Set guest_apic_protected if Secure AVIC is enabled Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/27] kvm: irqfd: Have kvm_arch_has_irq_bypass() take struct kvm pointer Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/27] KVM: SVM: Disable IRQ bypass for Secure AVIC Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/27] KVM: SVM: Add avic_ipiv_is_soft_disabled() as a wrapper around enable_ipiv Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 11/27] KVM: SVM: Disable IPIv for Secure AVIC Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 12/27] KVM: SVM: Short-circuit a few AVIC flows " Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 13/27] KVM: SVM: Warn if we ever receive AVIC_UNACCELERATED_ACCESS #VMEXIT Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 14/27] KVM: SVM: Do not inhibit AVIC for SEV-SNP guests if Secure AVIC is enabled Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 15/27] KVM: SVM: Set VGIF in VMSA area for Secure AVIC guests Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 16/27] KVM: SVM: Add handler for VMGEXIT Secure AVIC NAE event Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-08-26 16:09   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-22 15:01     ` Naveen N Rao
2026-09-30 14:43       ` Naveen N Rao
2026-09-30 15:45         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-30 19:54           ` Naveen N Rao
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 17/27] KVM: SVM: Do not intercept SECURE_AVIC_CONTROL MSR for Secure AVIC guests Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 18/27] KVM: x86: Add a new kvm_x86_op protected_apic_has_injectable_intr() Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 19/27] KVM: SVM: Implement kvm_x86_ops->protected_apic_has_injectable_intr() for Secure AVIC Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 20/27] KVM: SVM: Implement kvm_x86_ops->protected_apic_has_interrupt() " Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 21/27] KVM: SVM: Add interrupt delivery support for Secure AVIC guests Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 22/27] KVM: SVM: Add support for incomplete IPI handling for Secure AVIC Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 23/27] KVM: SVM: Add support for injecting NMIs for Secure AVIC guests Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 24/27] KVM: SVM: Mandate use of split irqchip for Secure AVIC Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 25/27] KVM: SVM: Do not inject exceptions " Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 26/27] KVM: SVM: Do not intercept exceptions for Secure AVIC guests Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  6:32 ` [RFC PATCH v3 27/27] KVM: SVM: Advertise Secure AVIC support for SEV-SNP guests Naveen N Rao (AMD)
2026-07-08  9:20 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/27] KVM: SVM: Add support for SEV-SNP Secure AVIC Naveen N Rao

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