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From: Zhang Zheng <zhangzheng@iscas.ac.cn>
To: Oleksii Kurochko <oleksii.kurochko@gmail.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	"Alistair Francis" <alistair.francis@wdc.com>,
	"Connor Davis" <connojdavis@gmail.com>,
	"Baptiste Le Duc" <baptiste.le-duc@vates.tech>,
	"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"Anthony PERARD" <anthony.perard@vates.tech>,
	"Michal Orzel" <michal.orzel@amd.com>,
	"Jan Beulich" <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	"Julien Grall" <julien@xen.org>,
	"Roger Pau Monné" <roger@xenproject.org>,
	"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] xen/ns16550: drain TX before reinitializing
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2026 16:49:52 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <atCTKJXUnYfxz2rE@iscas-ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7dd6f51-ac42-4487-9f9f-cf0d3ba64455@gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 15, 2026 at 09:54:46AM +0200, Oleksii Kurochko wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/15/26 8:44 AM, Zhang Zheng wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 12, 2026 at 12:20:50PM +0200, Oleksii Kurochko wrote:
> > > > --- a/xen/drivers/char/ns16550.c
> > > > +++ b/xen/drivers/char/ns16550.c
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > > +    while ( !(ns_read_reg(uart, UART_LSR) & UART_LSR_TEMT) )
> > > > +        cpu_relax();
> > > > +
> > > 
> > > IMO waiting for TEMT rather than THRE is the right choice: besides
> > > resetting the FIFOs, ns16550_setup_preirq() reprograms the divisor and
> > > LCR, which would corrupt a character still being shifted out. (Linux
> > > waits for UART_LSR_BOTH_EMPTY, i.e. THRE | TEMT, but on a 16550 TEMT
> > > already implies THRE.)
> > > 
> > Yes, I followed the Linux implementation, which waits in an unbounded loop
> > and theck UART_LSR_BOTH_EMPTY like you said:
> > 
> > for (;;) {
> > 		status = serial8250_early_in(port, UART_LSR);
> > 		if (uart_lsr_tx_empty(status)) /* checks UART_LSR_BOTH_EMPTY */
> > 				break;
> > 		cpu_relax();
> > }
> > 
> > So I didn't have timeout handling
> > > The unbounded wait can hang early Xen boot if the UART never reports TEMT
> > > for some reason(?). Bounding the wait would make console initialization more
> > > robust, allowing boot to continue when the UART is unavailable
> > > 
> > >      for ( i = 0; i < 50000; i++ )
> > >      {
> > >          if ( ns_read_reg(uart, UART_LSR) & UART_LSR_TEMT )
> > >              break;
> > >          udelay(10);
> > >      }
> > > 
> > > would need udelay() on RISC-V, which is still a BUG_ON() stub, so a
> > > separate patch would be needed for that. On x86, udelay() doesn't delay
> > > yet at this point (cpu_khz is only set by early_time_init()), so there
> > > the loop would just be an iteration count. Perhaps someone has a better
> > > idea of how to implement a timeout here.
> > > 
> > > ~ Oleksii
> > > 
> > Leaving aside the unavailability of udelay() at this point, is a timeout
> > considered necessary here?
> 
> In the way Jan B. mentioned here: https://lore.kernel.org/xen-devel/20261010031406.2057735-1-zhangzheng@iscas.ac.cn/T/#meaf24c3bb039dc6aaecffab752d2b107581816e0
> 
> I think we still can have timeout check.
> 
> ~ Oleksii

I saw it afterwards. Thanks.

Zhang



      reply	other threads:[~2026-10-15  8:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-10  3:14 [PATCH v2 0/2] xen/ns16550: preserve UART operation across firmware handover Zhang Zheng
2026-10-10  3:14 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] xen/ns16550: detect and preserve UART_IER_UUE Zhang Zheng
2026-10-10 22:11   ` Baptiste Le Duc
2026-10-12  9:27     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-10-15  3:22     ` Zhang Zheng
2026-10-12  9:20   ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-10-12 12:50     ` Jan Beulich
2026-10-12 13:24       ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-10-15  4:50         ` Zhang Zheng
2026-10-15  3:44     ` Zhang Zheng
2026-10-12 12:52   ` Jan Beulich
2026-10-15  4:40     ` Zhang Zheng
2026-10-15  7:16       ` Jan Beulich
     [not found] ` <20261010031406.2057735-3-zhangzheng@iscas.ac.cn>
2026-10-10 22:13   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] xen/ns16550: drain TX before reinitializing Baptiste Le Duc
2026-10-12 10:20   ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-10-12 12:56     ` Jan Beulich
2026-10-12 13:25       ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-10-15  4:52       ` Zhang Zheng
2026-10-12 13:00     ` Jan Beulich
2026-10-15  4:46       ` Zhang Zheng
2026-10-15  6:48     ` Zhang Zheng
     [not found]     ` <atB2HqxU_D481PBk@iscas-ws>
2026-10-15  7:54       ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-10-15  8:49         ` Zhang Zheng [this message]

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