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Mon, 19 Oct 2026 00:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2026 10:02:32 +0300 From: Dan Carpenter To: Arnaldo Melo Cc: Alexei Starovoitov , Jiri Kosina , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, sashiko@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: Patch pre-submission to Sashiko Message-ID: References: <49D0633D-3576-4F42-9934-85663D11EC15@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: sashiko@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49D0633D-3576-4F42-9934-85663D11EC15@gmail.com> On Sat, Oct 17, 2026 at 03:38:36PM -0300, Arnaldo Melo wrote: > > > On October 17, 2026 3:20:47 PM GMT-03:00, Alexei Starovoitov wrote: > >On Sat Oct 17, 2026 at 5:28 PM UTC, Jiri Kosina wrote: > >> > >> [ in the spirit of the concluding discussion at this year's maintainers > >> summit, I'm using this list outside of actual maintainer summit > >> planning :) ] > >> > >> I have just received a v1 to v11 patchset submission within roughly one > >> day timeframe. > >> > >> Neither myself nor anyone else did comment with any review feedback, > >> except for Sashiko. Which I believe is what triggered all the immediate > >> resubmissions. > >> > >> I don't think this is sustanable. > > > >I think it's just fine. I encourage developers to keep the spam going. > > Yay, agreed, it's not like before AI people were reading all of lkml I read everything that's sent to drivers/staging. I've read it in the order that it arrives and I've done that since 2010... But these days people are treating the list like a pre-submit AI checker which sucks. I feel like people are saying we should just accept that mailing lists are just AI checker interfaces instead of being intended for humans... I think adding a 24 hour delay to the AI review solves this. It seems to be working for networking. It will likely push people to use AI locally which is even better. > (or other voluminous lists) traffic, just ignore what clearly is a > conversation that now happens way faster than in the past until you > see it calmed down > > The problem was not getting feedback at all, now people complain that > feedback is being provided timely and then that people are responding > to feedback in a timely fashion? That has never been a problem on drivers/staging. Greg responds to every email and when he was on vacation then I responded to every email. regards, dan carpenter