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From: Harry Yoo <harry@kernel.org>
To: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 03/17] mm/memcg: add folio-based lruvec live helper
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2026 14:46:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <atYdi3O77m6XzaKu@thinkstation> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMgjq7A6Yom=dHDMXk+mpYm3dotgOaVRjPHgUsOryjJ1VjPC6Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 16, 2026 at 02:15:59PM +0800, Kairui Song wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2026 at 3:11 AM Harry Yoo <harry@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 16, 2026 at 02:15:52AM +0800, Kairui Song via B4 Relay wrote:
> > > From: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
> > >
> > > Add a helper that resolves a stable lruvec for a folio under RCU
> > > without taking the lruvec lock.  It takes a folio directly so the
> > > lruvec lookup happens inside the RCU read-side critical section,
> > > which a lruvec-based interface cannot guarantee.
> > >
> > > No functional change.
> > >
> > > Tested-by: zhaozhengzhuo <zhaozhengzhuo@uniontech.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
> > > ---
> >
> > This new helper is doing the the same thing as what
> > get_non_dying_memcg_start/end() do.
> >
> 
> Hi Harry, thanks for letting me know, I wasn't aware this helper
> exists, this series started before the re-planting work, so I missed
> it.

No worries!

> But it's a bit different though, get_non_dying_memcg_start assumes the
> caller holds a reference to memcg, while folio_lruvec_live_get only
> assumes the caller holds an reference to the folio.

Not sure I follow. I think get_non_dying_memcg_start() has the same
assumption (a reference to the folio). A folio no longer pins the memcg,
which was a key requirement for the reparenting work.

In the function, RCU is the only mechanism that prevents release of
the memcg and guarantees correct reparenting of local memcg stats
(state_local) as it's reparented in an RCU work.

> I'll check if I can deduplicate it though.

Thanks!

-- 
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon


  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-19 13:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-15 18:15 [PATCH v4 00/17] mm/mglru: frequency guided promotion (MGLRU-FG) and flag cleanup Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15 ` Kairui Song
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 01/17] mm/memcontrol: allow update of LRU statistic without holding LRU lock Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15   ` Kairui Song
2026-10-15 18:32   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 02/17] mm/mglru: make generation page counters atomic Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15   ` Kairui Song
2026-10-15 18:37   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 03/17] mm/memcg: add folio-based lruvec live helper Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15   ` Kairui Song
2026-10-15 18:31   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-15 19:11   ` Harry Yoo
2026-10-16  6:15     ` Kairui Song
2026-10-19 13:46       ` Harry Yoo [this message]
2026-10-19 14:14         ` Harry Yoo
2026-10-16  7:39   ` Muchun Song
2026-10-16  7:54     ` Kairui Song
2026-10-16  9:09       ` Muchun Song
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 04/17] mm/mglru: frequency guided workingset promotion (MGLRU-FG) Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15   ` Kairui Song
2026-10-15 18:41   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-19 10:10   ` Barry Song
2026-10-19 12:08     ` Kairui Song
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 05/17] mm/mglru: make folio lru referenced times count a generic API Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15   ` Kairui Song
2026-10-15 18:30   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 06/17] mm/mglru: move add/del LRU size accounting out of lru_gen_update_size() Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15   ` Kairui Song
2026-10-15 18:28   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 07/17] mm/mglru, gup: mark folios referenced via a fast helper Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15   ` Kairui Song
2026-10-15 18:27   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 08/17] mm/mglru, smaps: convert to LRU refs based operations for MGLRU Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15   ` Kairui Song
2026-10-15 18:29   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 09/17] mm/damon: " Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15   ` Kairui Song
2026-10-15 18:27   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 10/17] mm/khugepaged: " Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15   ` Kairui Song
2026-10-15 18:29   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-15 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 11/17] mm/madvise: adapt for " Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:16   ` Kairui Song
2026-10-15 18:25   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-15 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 12/17] mm/huge_memory: mark folio as accessed more accurately on split Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:16   ` Kairui Song
2026-10-15 18:36   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-15 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 13/17] mm/mglru: folio LRU refs based active/inactive number accounting Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:16   ` Kairui Song
2026-10-15 18:34   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-15 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 14/17] mm/mglru: reparent folios from all generations Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:16   ` Kairui Song
2026-10-15 18:27   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-15 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 15/17] mm/mglru: make folio_inc_lru_refs lruvec lockless Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:16   ` Kairui Song
2026-10-15 18:29   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-15 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 16/17] mm/mglru: make folio_test_workingset() work based on folio LRU refs Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:16   ` Kairui Song
2026-10-15 18:35   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-15 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 17/17] Documentation/mm: multi-gen LRU: update for frequency guided promotion Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:16   ` Kairui Song
2026-10-15 18:27   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-16  8:42 ` [PATCH v4 00/17] mm/mglru: frequency guided promotion (MGLRU-FG) and flag cleanup Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-10-16 11:43   ` Kairui Song
2026-10-16 12:11     ` Kairui Song

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