From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=18.9.28.11 ARC-Seal: i=1; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc20261015; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; t=1792441746; b=uxySXBb4IJkrQgEn6uuJXEiqoweRlqtKKKGcE7cICZQgoaHiCK9w2QN32LWj8OwG6jAs MLl01YoEuo/Ny+6DDGAh8RAAaI8AGn269KUpbNTUz4r8Nh3BrQjTkRUhRBfYH04pWC8rX fOU7cahK50LY9Ly2e0pz+Q2lqCLiQuzzvv4TujXwhWhI1r7eJtUs/g0thYBu2D/BBntYK 4tX057wlRvYPoHb14wj5QmCenrSt/926FO2DqhHyzQa8XsNUy0nERkTZrZiv5IOlRFnUO Fu34OBPAIl8LsSSLLD7YcqY+XeSjoGAaC97cHZqNe1gxhfN1h/y8iCWDEDQn6yb61Gg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc20261015; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1792441746; h=DMARC-Filter:Received:DKIM-Signature:Received:Date:From:To:Cc: Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; bh=lBQQJXPS0c8nHhzRDXav8WgcwPtIGLyWbDIiDbZx1iU=; b=bWx+sqOo4foBGqBkydRlJBbYaHjZiO9SZPFb4BPfyuYX5K2ccMU06D4qRdC0HVZMcnxb jQbmRWlVDzH/HM5wwwmKSqmGqCrmIFOfd/c8bxHXdJV7qyM8YfATGVCARwrjke1l10tgI bXbxNyraBlDlbOaE3vxlSFgGxeS628m8mDIWuoYb+6ep7IEIv2APHqn7prwVwuw8G0ao2 BfAsDFNnNr3cojcNgfcOx2eF7McUOAU435WRyWKCv2i962dAmLmn7Ab5MUq2Y2mukhoHR avVnWJRlvarCxfSbYYHDP5mKDpNE6HHyoDGYY48QJPaC8fbn/V8ZKjWP8USZehjiNGg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass header.from=mit.edu; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=mit.edu; dkim=pass header.d=mit.edu header.i=@mit.edu header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=outgoing header.b=HOqg0L9O; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=18.9.28.11 Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 113D2606A31C for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2026 20:29:05 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 smtp.subspace.kernel.org 113D2606A31C Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=mit.edu Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=mit.edu Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key, unprotected) header.d=mit.edu header.i=@mit.edu header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=outgoing header.b=HOqg0L9O Received: from macsyma.thunk.org (pool-173-48-113-115.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [173.48.113.115]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 69JKSmvT025159 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 19 Oct 2026 16:28:49 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mit.edu; s=outgoing; t=1792441731; bh=lBQQJXPS0c8nHhzRDXav8WgcwPtIGLyWbDIiDbZx1iU=; h=Date:From:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HOqg0L9Oq9gewSxZCo8lVd6NFqEfVSQXMXMb8m5GIC8r0zOh8dpKRwi4YlTB7FpLb XCMnY+9nRA9fDqrhNfIlKY/owa4Ig9mPc7ak5LdlAcM+8TxucR2p11y+0xFAOsiv3y 3zUFdKs4CD3vIkH9s6OFO1ogD0hZ4RbkasziuvQB7ZYLd4If0YYibVTs9H/w7GKgpy 9fmqb0VaSf9FAYxNHPh5g6iNhacB5s1X8d4LxCaADK/QA7rPcTST72Wr1gxrX5vybT N/1XuPEDmh03mDJWC2pPTivgXVHyWKOZnuYB7zfVdN8f8sEn7Z1EXpg+dZlqNpbZkw E4WgsWL8+P89w== Received: by macsyma.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id 0CBD7219E5BF; Mon, 19 Oct 2026 16:27:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2026 16:27:47 -0400 From: "Theodore Tso" To: johannes.goede@oss.qualcomm.com Cc: Jiri Kosina , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, sashiko@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: Patch pre-submission to Sashiko Message-ID: References: <3354ebda-5158-489b-a577-5cb10e5d5fb0@oss.qualcomm.com> X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3354ebda-5158-489b-a577-5cb10e5d5fb0@oss.qualcomm.com> On Mon, Oct 19, 2026 at 01:02:55PM -0500, johannes.goede@oss.qualcomm.com wrote: > > It's not that hard for people to set up a local Sashiko. and then use > > either an local LLM, or their own cloud-hosted AI tokens. Perhaps > > that's something we can encourage. > > Actually it is that hard. Even if you spend the 2000 - 3000usd > necessary to run somewhat large-ish models locally the results are > still quite slow (which by itself would be ok) and they catch > a lot less then the actual Shashiko service. I was thinking about difficulty in setting up, but it's fair to point out that not everyone will have access to a high-end GPU or a M5 Max or RTX/DGX Spark setup. On the other hand, not everyone is going to big development/build machine. either. So we might need to consider what a hobbyist or student might have access to, versus a corproate-sponsored emplyoee/contractor at different companies, etc. The former might only have a personal "Pro" level subscription, but some other folks might have company sponsored token budgets which even in the post-token-maxxing era, might be a bit more generous than a subscription plan. As someone else has pointed out, students / hobbyists just use OpenCode with the review prompts with one of their free models, such as "Big Pickle". That or a local quen3-coder-next (my current local LLM, when I'm not using my employer's cloud hosted models) might not be as good as Sashiko, but you can find a lot of the obvious issues first, before you send it to the public list. - Ted