From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=91.216.245.30 ARC-Seal: i=1; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc20261015; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; t=1792677436; b=a9xI14rkBgKXKewtUouAwree6PmIRswDlMcBXVpRjSkpWqtW8rlGJMJ4FAmYEtiWvI38 /oNyt1U5HqJlNeczuqkCcyyVBQ3JF6dQnmWkvUH0liHYiqOrmQo9wezHZ54bDVFXpT7C/ lp+MtksPA55HYMzF/dICqwSqBHFY1zKu7Cq2nALoqXJ2D4cNYAZPOjQlJvdTHRr1l1yKX hP6CXMyGMyTfGCgW8dkn/aa8th8yhgz+4aw5nXwdGLYJDRLbeWgO9pSRwEJZLqv+YnUhn LKpdBPgmenNPJR3dWOFqk4L2t4AaIkZNIwL38X9JbUMkIbmlX6WOI4wfqcW6uspEWcg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc20261015; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1792677436; h=DMARC-Filter:Received:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; bh=990LuiKzJrJ0lOjZszyrrSfnTL30B8yoXmFjR+lU7ds=; b=kklxtvXNKi+Xe8Du1Jwe6Hh8r2/M+SDZfhr9XKEKUtZb4ryt+JAgCh6Fuhqtk/YZ5N/h 3f/dCaXJnvtnq6Ar6g7SLNEpg5EPjUJmzEbOumd2uob43A01CGb90V5LUrImNGeox6fS0 hKygm8BFWhMc26zi2ouGsEkmjwVwYg7faBcYS+frzHzOLyaAihCCwaYaYEix71GhFiKJ2 pS2NiNQLcSFMjnDSIkLRCG/vqi0gNDNMOf3xoZ5/9+wM7VpF1WKil4rNCIIHMyemlF1Q7 jTSTSqApT2tb+WZ8yUONqkhqn3P38Z8R6mXb4Ohst+tOzNhLeHTPDjwlyy9Q1OkBiwQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none header.from=strlen.de; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=strlen.de; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=91.216.245.30 Received: from Chamillionaire.breakpoint.cc (Chamillionaire.breakpoint.cc [91.216.245.30]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (prime256v1) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8C77606A31A for ; Thu, 22 Oct 2026 13:57:15 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 smtp.subspace.kernel.org B8C77606A31A Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=strlen.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=strlen.de Received: by Chamillionaire.breakpoint.cc (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 3A77961066; Thu, 22 Oct 2026 15:57:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2026 15:57:07 +0200 From: Florian Westphal To: Julius =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCberg?= Cc: Richard Van Tassel , netfilter@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: userns packet mangling Message-ID: References: <8b03ef541269cff566c220ebc1ea34c77b303dad.camel@student.kit.edu> X-Mailing-List: netfilter@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <8b03ef541269cff566c220ebc1ea34c77b303dad.camel@student.kit.edu> Julius Rüberg wrote: > > Florian Westphal > > wrote:https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/netfilter-devel/patch/20260905050150.30273-1-fw@strlen.de/ > > > > is still pending, and its closing known security hole. > > So no, for now we can't re-enable this feature. > > Just out of curiosity, if disabling packet mangling for userns closes a > security hole, wouldn't this leave LTS kernels, which to my > understanding have neither your fix nor the disablement backported, > vulnerable? Sure, but there is no local security with unpriv userns anyway. I'd say at the moment there is no local security at all, even in latest kernels.