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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::1030; envelope-from=mathieu.poirier@linaro.org; helo=mail-pj1-x1030.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: qemu development List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, INCLUDES_CR_TRAILER,INCLUDES_PATCH,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-26) on aws-us-west-2-korg-listserv-alma10-1 On Fri, Oct 23, 2026 at 08:58:38AM +0200, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote: > On Fri, Oct 23, 2026 at 09:30:36AM +1000, Gavin Shan wrote: > > On 10/23/26 12:34 AM, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2026 at 10:24:56PM +1000, Gavin Shan wrote: > > > > On 10/21/26 7:47 PM, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Oct 02, 2026 at 01:45:40PM +1000, Gavin Shan wrote: > > > > > > On 9/4/26 5:35 AM, Mathieu Poirier wrote: > > > > > > > From: Jean-Philippe Brucker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once the Realm descriptor has been created, tell KVM to transfer runtime > > > > > > > images (kernel, DT, and rootfs) from guest memory to Realm memory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Jean-Philippe Brucker > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Pieralisi > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Mathieu Poirier > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > target/arm/kvm-rme.c | 76 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > > 1 file changed, 76 insertions(+) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/target/arm/kvm-rme.c b/target/arm/kvm-rme.c > > > > > > > index 9985f5daba89..c082a5d8f3d1 100644 > > > > > > > --- a/target/arm/kvm-rme.c > > > > > > > +++ b/target/arm/kvm-rme.c > > > > > > > @@ -15,6 +15,7 @@ > > > > > > > #include "migration/blocker.h" > > > > > > > #include "qapi/error.h" > > > > > > > #include "qemu/error-report.h" > > > > > > > +#include "qemu/memalign.h" > > > > > > > #include "qom/object_interfaces.h" > > > > > > > #include "system/confidential-guest-support.h" > > > > > > > #include "system/kvm.h" > > > > > > > @@ -43,12 +44,87 @@ OBJECT_DEFINE_SIMPLE_TYPE_WITH_INTERFACES(RmeGuest, rme_guest, RME_GUEST, > > > > > > > static RmeGuest *rme_guest; > > > > > > > +static int rme_populate_range(const RmeRamRegion *region, bool measure, > > > > > > > + Error **errp) > > > > > > > +{ > > > > > > > + int ret; > > > > > > > + void *buffer; > > > > > > > + hwaddr size = region->size; > > > > > > > + hwaddr base = region->base; > > > > > > > + hwaddr start = QEMU_ALIGN_DOWN(base, RME_PAGE_SIZE); > > > > > > > + hwaddr end = QEMU_ALIGN_UP(base + size, RME_PAGE_SIZE); > > > > > > > + struct kvm_arm_rmi_populate populate_args; > > > > > > > + size_t aligned_size = ROUND_UP(region->size, qemu_real_host_page_size()); > > > > > > > > > > > > s/qemu_real_host_page_size()/RME_PAGE_SIZE > > > > > > > > > > It will always have to be qemu_real_host_page_size(), KVM configures it > > > > > that way. > > > > > > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > + if (!region->data) { > > > > > > > + return -ENODEV; > > > > > > > + } > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > + ret = kvm_set_memory_attributes_private(start, end - start); > > > > > > > + if (ret) { > > > > > > > + error_report("RME: failed to configure initial" > > > > > > > + "private guest memory"); > > > > > > > + return ret; > > > > > > > + } > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > + /* Allocate page-aligned memory */ > > > > > > > + buffer = qemu_memalign(qemu_real_host_page_size(), aligned_size); > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > + if (!buffer) { > > > > > > > + return -ENOMEM; > > > > > > > + } > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > + memset(buffer, 0, aligned_size); > > > > > > > + memcpy(buffer, region->data, region->size); > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > + populate_args = (struct kvm_arm_rmi_populate) { > > > > > > > + .base = start, > > > > > > > + .size = end - start, > > > > > > > + .source_uaddr = (uintptr_t)buffer, > > > > > > > + .flags = measure ? KVM_ARM_RMI_POPULATE_FLAGS_MEASURE : 0, > > > > > > > + }; > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > + while (populate_args.size > 0) { > > > > > > > + ret = kvm_vm_ioctl(kvm_state, KVM_ARM_RMI_POPULATE, &populate_args, 0); > > > > > > > + if (ret) { > > > > > > > + error_setg_errno(errp, -ret, > > > > > > > + "failed to populate realm [0x%"HWADDR_PRIx", 0x%"HWADDR_PRIx")", > > > > > > > + start, end); > > > > > > > + break; > > > > > > > + } > > > > > > > + } > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > + qemu_vfree(buffer); > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > + return ret; > > > > > > > +} > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > > > > > > I doubt that the unaligned regions (RmeRamRegion) are allowed. For example, > > > > > > the region [4KB 64KB+4KB] is turned to the aligned range [0 128KB] when RME_PAGE_SIZE > > > > > > is 64KB. The question is how do we know the added regions due to the alignment > > > > > > ([0 4KB] and [64KB+4KB 128KB]) are safe for kvm_vm_ioctl(KVM_ARM_RMI_POPULATE). > > > > > > > > > > Getting back to this because it is important. Can you define "safe" here ? > > > > > > > > > > I think it is VMM's role to load with the required alignment and make > > > > > sure it does not double populate (that is anyway prevented by KVM), what was > > > > > your concern here to make sure we are in agreement ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, there are two regions are populated: [0 4KB] and [4KB 64KB] on a 64KB > > > > host. With the alignment considered, we're populating [0 64KB] for region [0 4KB], > > > > and [0 64KB] for [4KB 64KB]. [0 64KB] are populated for twice. Is this allowed by > > > > TF-RMM? If it's allowed by TF-RMM, the data populated in the first time is overwritten > > > > by the second population. > > > > > > It is not allowed by the RMM and it is a VMM bug that we have to prevent. > > > > > > > Ok, thanks for your confirm. It's why I asked if we ever see an unaligned > > Rom region. If all Rom regions are aligned to host page size, then we needn't > > to handle the unaligned Rom regions in rme_populate_range(). Otherwise, we > > need come up with a solution to address the issue. > > > > The solution would be to generate a temporary region list based on the existing > > Rom region list. For each region in the temporary list, its start/size are well > > aligned to host page size, and the temporary buffer is allocated, and the data > > is properly copied over from the original Rom region. The population is done > > based on the temporary list. For example, we need to have [0 64kb], [128kb 192kb] > > regions in the temporary list if we have Rom region [0 1kb], [4kb 5kb] [16kb 17kb], > > [132kb 133kb], [136kb 140kb]. The host page size is assumed to be 64kb in the example. > > > > [0 64kb] covers [0 1kb], [4kb 5kb] [16kb 17kb] > > [128kb 192kb] covers [132kb 133kb], [136kb 140kb] > > That's exactly what needs to be done. > That is also what I understood. My goal is to present this enhancement in RFCv6. > Thanks, > Lorenzo > > > Thanks, > > Gavin > > > > > Thanks, > > > Lorenzo > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Gavin > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Lorenzo > > > > > > > > > > > I guess we probably just reject unaligned regions if they're not expected. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even if the unaligned regions are allowed, they seem not well handled. > > > > > > > > > > > > - @aligned_size is still 64KB instead of the 128KB ? > > > > > > - In "memcpy(buffer, region->data, region->size);", the blob data would be copied to > > > > > > [4KB, 4KB+64KB]. However, we're copying the data to [0 64KB] now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > +static void rme_populate_ram_region(gpointer data, gpointer err) > > > > > > > +{ > > > > > > > + Error **errp = err; > > > > > > > + const RmeRamRegion *region = data; > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > + if (*errp) { > > > > > > > + return; > > > > > > > + } > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > + rme_populate_range(region, /* measure */ true, errp); > > > > > > > +} > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > static void rme_vm_state_change(void *opaque, bool running, RunState state) > > > > > > > { > > > > > > > + Error *errp = NULL; > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > if (!running) { > > > > > > > return; > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > + g_slist_foreach(rme_guest->ram_regions, rme_populate_ram_region, &errp); > > > > > > > + g_slist_free_full(g_steal_pointer(&rme_guest->ram_regions), g_free); > > > > > > > + if (errp) { > > > > > > > + return; > > > > > > > + } > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > kvm_mark_guest_state_protected(); > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Gavin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >