From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/3] KEYS: Replace assoc_array with rhashtable
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2026 14:44:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <au8dHKGIv2tr_Xom@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261107032551.GA1990@sol>
On Fri, Nov 06, 2026 at 07:25:51PM -0800, Eric Biggers wrote:
> I don't think the retry loop is actually sufficient or desirable here
> (though it would be very rare for it to be reached). It gets reached
> when there are too many elements in one rhashtable chain. However,
> we're already pre-hashing with SipHash, and the rhashtable level hash is
> passed only the 32-bit SipHash. Suppose we reach this case because the
> SipHash values collided: then rhashtable's rehashing would never reduce
> the chain length, and the -EBUSY would last forever.
>
> I think the right solution is to just set '.insecure_elasticity = true'
> in the rhashtable_params, to disable the chain length checks. Those
> checks make no sense when we're using SipHash anyway.
Thanks, this is a valid suggestion. I was thinking about having maximum
retries but this is much better idea. I'll address this as you proposed.
>
> Then the retry loop would not be needed.
>
> (And even for rhashtable users who aren't using SipHash, like
> fs/verity/, hard-failing insertions if the hash chains gets too long
> seems wrong. I mean, imagine if the kernel started refusing to do file
> operations if one of the hash chains in the VFS hash tables happened to
> get too long... But I guess rhashtable was designed for towards
> networking users who are able to just drop the data without much issue.
> Plus it predates SipHash existing.)
>
> - Eric
Br, Jarkko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-07 12:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-05 3:13 [PATCH v5 0/3] KEYS: Replace assoc_array with rhashtable Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-05 3:13 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] KEYS: Introduce keyring_is_empty() Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-05 3:14 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] KEYS: Replace assoc_array with rhashtable Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-06 8:21 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-11-06 9:05 ` Eric Biggers
2026-11-06 13:02 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-11-06 19:05 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-06 19:19 ` Eric Biggers
2026-11-06 19:30 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-06 19:41 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-08 20:05 ` David Laight
2026-11-06 15:08 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-07 3:25 ` Eric Biggers
2026-11-07 12:44 ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2026-11-05 3:14 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] lib: Remove assoc_array Jarkko Sakkinen
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