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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>,
	 David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>,
	Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	 Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, users@kernel.org,
	 Federico Vaga <federico.vaga@vaga.pv.it>,
	Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
	 Carlos Bilbao <carlos.bilbao@kernel.org>,
	Avadhut Naik <avadhut.naik@amd.com>,  Alex Shi <alexs@kernel.org>,
	Yanteng Si <si.yanteng@linux.dev>,
	 Dongliang Mu <dzm91@hust.edu.cn>,
	Chen-Yu Yeh <chenyou910331@gmail.com>, Weijie Yuan <wy@wyuan.org>,
	 workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	 Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] get_maintainer: stop sending every patch to LKML
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2026 09:15:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aujFFczvri8ME1Jy@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0hDHcN9RN743sGhhDNESz0zwVDfBOJYvfTDwQv_STq4rA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 02, 2026, Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel) wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2026 at 3:34 PM Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net> wrote:
> >
> > "Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)" <rafael@kernel.org> writes:
> >
> > > So it occurred to me that it might be actually better to stop sending
> > > messages directly to LKML subscribers and only make it available for
> > > download somewhere and as a Lore archive.
> > >
> > > Is there really anyone depending on receiving all of the LKML traffic every day?
> >
> > * raises hand
> >
> > Some of us crazy people really do depend on it, yes.

+1, e.g. it's how I found out about this proposed change.  FWIW, I don't actually
need (or want) to receive *all* LKML traffic; I probably only truly consume less
than 1% of the mails, via heavy filtering.  But AFAIK, there isn't an alternative
way to arbitrarily choose what traffic is important to me.

> Exceptions would be straightforward to make though I suppose.
> 
> So really my question would be how many people there are who depend on
> receiving all of the LKML traffic every day via SMTP.  And I honestly
> think that not everybody subscribed to it.  Probably not even 10% of
> those people.

There are quite a few subsystems that use linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org as their
one and only list, including (almost?) all of the subsystems that are routed through
the tip tree (x86@ isn't a subscribable mailing list).

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-02 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-20 15:35 [PATCH v2 0/2] get_maintainer: stop sending every patch to LKML Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-10-20 15:35 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] get_maintainer: only use THE REST as a fallback Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-10-20 15:47   ` Joe Perches
2026-10-20 15:52     ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-10-20 16:39       ` Joe Perches
2026-10-20 15:35 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] docs: submitting-patches: make LKML a list of last resort again Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-10-20 16:58   ` Randy Dunlap
2026-10-21  6:29   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-21  6:48   ` Greg KH
2026-10-21  8:33   ` Lee Jones
2026-10-21 20:33   ` Jiri Kosina
2026-10-20 15:53 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] get_maintainer: stop sending every patch to LKML Joe Perches
2026-10-20 18:51   ` Theodore Tso
2026-10-21  9:13     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-10-20 16:44 ` Weijie Yuan
2026-11-01 14:42 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-11-02  9:32 ` David Laight
2026-11-02 14:12   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-11-02 14:18     ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-11-02 14:34       ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-11-02 14:45         ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-11-02 17:15           ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-11-02 15:05         ` David Laight
2026-11-02 15:47           ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-11-02 16:10             ` Joe Perches
2026-11-02 16:23               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-11-02 16:20             ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-11-02 16:24           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-11-02 17:17             ` David Laight
2026-11-02 17:56             ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-11-02 18:25               ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-11-02 19:31               ` David Laight
2026-11-03  0:16 ` Dongliang Mu

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