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From: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
To: Xavier Leroy <Xavier.Leroy@inria.fr>,
	 Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Michal Schorm <mschorm@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Two copyright notices missing in 6.20?
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2026 00:13:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aukT75oZFuvhwiEd@devuan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9d4eec62-bfab-4cf9-ac48-c77dd57b60ac@redhat.com>

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Hi Carlos, Xavier,

> Date: 2026-11-02 11:24:25-0500
> From: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
>
> Alejandro,
> 
> I did a quick audit through 6.20 since we're looking to ship an update in Fedora.
> 
> - Xavier Leroy — pthread_once.3

Xavier asked me to remove his name from the pages when I told him about
picking the old pthread_*() pages from glibc and Debian.

	commit 13151ec525a21101dabb2528784bf9a86b1280f4
	Author: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
	Date:   2023-10-03 16:57:29 +0200

	    pthread_*.3: Remove AUTHOR section; add copyright; adapt TH
	    
	    Xavier asked that his name be removed from the AUTHOR section, and since
	    we don't use that section in this project, we can just wipe it.
	    
	    Add copyright notices to the pages, with Xavier as the original author,
	    and me, who will maintain them from now on.  Xavier ACKed the
	    Linux-man-pages-copyleft license.
	    
	    Adapt the TH line:
	    
	    -  Specify the date as (date).
	    -  Specify the project name in the 4th arg.
	    -  The first arg, the page name, must be the same as the file name.
	    
	    Suggested-by: Xavier Leroy <Xavier.Leroy@inria.fr>
	    Signed-off-by: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>

Here's a quote from an email from Xavier:

| Date: Sun, 21 May 2023 11:40:12 +0200
| From: Xavier Leroy <Xavier.Leroy@inria.fr>
| Message-ID: <CAH=h3gFakgz3xcH63h-5nO0L9LuSy2Xr5b2riwpJ1o4L3DzuRg@mail.gmail.com>
|
| To answer your question:
| - I don't think it's a good idea to take these man pages "as is" and drop
| them in the man-pages project, because they are probably obsolete and
| incomplete.
| - However, if you or others would like to use these man pages as a starting
| point for a comprehensive, up-to-date and maintained documentation for
| POSIX Threads functions in Linux, you're most welcome.
| - In both cases, I'd like my name and e-mail address to be removed from the
| man pages, as I no longer support them.

And a follop-up email:

| Date: Sun, 21 May 2023 19:29:19 +0200
| From: Xavier Leroy <Xavier.Leroy@inria.fr>
| Message-ID: <CAH=h3gF3F-tOq6-zYKf63_JhR3tRZ9NFMiTpX2YEjhhjDGr7Hw@mail.gmail.com>
|
| I'm happy with the man-pages-copyleft  license.  If you need me to write a
| more formal message for the licensing of these pages, let me know.
| 
| No other requests than 1- removing my name, and 2- updating the pages as
| much as you and others can.

I'm not sure why I kept his name in the copyright notices back then.
I thought I had asked him about it, but I can't find that discussion.

Anyway, I've CCed Xavier now.  Xavier, are you okay with your copyright
notices being transformed to a generic one that says this?:

	Copyright, the authors of the Linux man-pages project

> - Linus Torvalds — setreuid.2

Seems a mistake.  Fixed now.  Thanks!

> At the top level the following people have had their notices removed but I didn't
> see them acknowledge that removal on the mailing list, or in your final audit here:
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-man/unavr5u2uynqfvj7iymgvsptq4k5s5b4ex7havl36zro4bbua4@fqpjhnsuu5ln/
> 
> Should we add these back?
> 
> I can only assume the Michael Kerrisk consented,

He didn't.  We talked in person, and he asked his notices to be
restored, which I believe I did.

	$ grep -rn Copyright.*Kerrisk | wc -l 
	1224

Did I miss any?

> but I don't think you explicitly
> mentioned this in any email I read with a Message-id. Would you do so for the record?


Have a lovely night!
Alex

-- 
<https://www.alejandro-colomar.es>

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-02 23:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-02 16:24 Two copyright notices missing in 6.20? Carlos O'Donell
2026-11-02 23:13 ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2026-11-03  7:10   ` Michal Schorm
2026-11-03 11:57     ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-03 14:55   ` Carlos O'Donell
2026-11-03 15:28     ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-11-03 18:02       ` Carlos O'Donell
2026-11-03 18:52         ` GPL/GFDL incompatibility (was: Two copyright notices missing in 6.20?) G. Branden Robinson
2026-11-03 16:54     ` copyright year ranges and "collapse" " G. Branden Robinson
2026-11-03 17:55       ` copyright year ranges and "collapse" Carlos O'Donell
2026-11-03 18:39         ` G. Branden Robinson
2026-11-03 21:40           ` Carlos O'Donell

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