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From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	 Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	 Nico Pache <nico.pache@linux.dev>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	 Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>,
	 Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>,
	Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] mm/khugepaged: release contended mmap read lock after scanning enough VMAs
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2026 19:09:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <avNrPKIoZ3JHiAjh@gremlin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261110-khugepaged-latency-fix-v3-3-6eea743cf9a3@kernel.org>

On Tue, Nov 10, 2026 at 05:19:13PM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote:
> khugepaged walks an mm's VMAs under the mmap read lock in
> collapse_scan_mm_slot(), checking for ineligible VMAs first, and skipping
> them if encountered.
>
> It charges cc->progress 1 page against the /sys/.../pages_to_scan budget
> when these are encountered, however only checking this budget once an
> eligible PMD-spanning VMA is encountered.
>
> It can therefore hold the mmap read lock for a long time if there are a
> large number of ineligible VMAs present in an mm, over which time no mmap
> write locks (and thus no VMA write locks) can be acquired.
>
> Address this by checking whether the mmap lock is contended after 1-10
> ms (depending on CONFIG_HZ), i.e. the granularity of jiffies. This is a
> long time for a lock to be held, so is a reasonable compromise for
> determining when best to do this.

Oops I left this in from the previous approach :)

Replace with:

	Address this by checking whether the mmap lock is contended after 1024
	VMAs scanned. This was measured to take around ~100 us on a fast
	machine, and given VMA eligibility checking is a light operation, it is
	likely this will remain at the same order of magnitude for slower
	machines.

	This therefore establishes a reasonable upper bound on how long a
	contended mmap lock is held.

Thanks! :)

--
Cheers, Lorenzo


  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-10 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-10 17:19 [PATCH v3 0/3] mm/khugepaged: bound mmap_lock hold time when walking an mm's VMAs Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-10 17:19 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] Revert "mm/khugepaged: remove definition of struct khugepaged_mm_slot" Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-10 17:19 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] mm/khugepaged: scan mm's more efficiently under mmap_lock contention Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-10 17:19 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] mm/khugepaged: release contended mmap read lock after scanning enough VMAs Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-10 19:09   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) [this message]
2026-11-12  9:26     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-11-12 10:55       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-11  9:27   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-11-11  9:30     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-11 17:19   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-12  9:39 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] mm/khugepaged: bound mmap_lock hold time when walking an mm's VMAs David Hildenbrand

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