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From: eazgwmir@umail.furryterror.org (Zygo Blaxell)
To: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: Corrupted/unreadable journal: reiser vs. ext3
Date: 13 Feb 2003 15:08:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b2gu0h$f7d$1@satsuki.furryterror.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200302130522.35829.sam@vilain.net

In article <200302130522.35829.sam@vilain.net>,
Sam Vilain  <sam@vilain.net> wrote:
>But with disks, you can.  Mirroring aside, modern hard disks use S.M.A.R.>T. 
>technology which claims to be able to spot failures before they happen.  
>Many BIOSes will let you turn this feature on and off.  Of course I've 
>never actually seen it in action :-).

I have seen SMART work.  At 11:20:30 I had a disk fail, then smartd put this
in my logs:

	Nov  6 11:20:30 chlorine smartd: Device: /dev/hdb, Failed attribute: 3

Oh, wait, you said "before"...no, I've never actually seen that in
action either.

SMART does give you statistics on ECC recovery rates, temperature, number of
remapped sectors, etc. which can give you a hint, if you keep track of them
over time, when your disk is beginning to have more problems than it did have
when it was newer.  Maybe about 50% of failures can be predicted this way
(but you have no idea _when_ the failure will occur--this afternoon or next
summer?) it's little better than the MTBF rating.  The other 50% of
failures are predicted only after the fact.  :-P

-- 
Zygo Blaxell (Laptop) <zblaxell@feedme.hungrycats.org>
GPG = D13D 6651 F446 9787 600B AD1E CCF3 6F93 2823 44AD

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-02-13 20:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-11 19:43 Corrupted/unreadable journal: reiser vs. ext3 berthiaume_wayne
2003-02-12 10:48 ` Dirk Schenkewitz
2003-02-12 10:59   ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-12 11:24     ` Frank Baumgart
2003-02-12 11:35       ` Stefan Traby
2003-02-12 11:54     ` Dirk Schenkewitz
2003-02-12 12:42       ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-12 13:25         ` Dirk Schenkewitz
2003-02-12 16:22 ` Sam Vilain
2003-02-12 16:53   ` Anders Widman
2003-02-12 17:19     ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-12 17:40       ` Anders Widman
2003-02-12 18:15         ` Dirk Mueller
2003-02-12 18:20           ` Anders Widman
2003-02-12 18:20         ` Chris Dukes
2003-02-13 20:08   ` Zygo Blaxell [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-02-20  9:55 Dirk Schenkewitz
2003-02-20 10:20 ` Anders Widman
2003-02-17 10:04 Dirk Schenkewitz
2003-02-20  1:27 ` Juan Quintela
2003-02-20  9:03   ` Anders Widman
2003-02-14 14:30 Dirk Schenkewitz
2003-02-14 14:20 Dirk Schenkewitz
2003-02-14 20:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-02-14  0:18 Sam Vilain
2003-02-23 23:31 ` Zygo Blaxell
2003-02-24  1:14   ` Anders Widman
2003-02-14  0:17 Sam Vilain
2003-02-14  0:16 Sam Vilain
2003-02-23 23:10 ` Zygo Blaxell
2003-02-12 20:57 Dirk Schenkewitz
2003-02-12 20:05 Dirk Schenkewitz
2003-02-13 22:49 ` Zygo Blaxell
2003-02-14  0:32   ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-14  8:18     ` Oleg Drokin
2003-02-14 10:13       ` Andreas Dilger
2003-02-14 10:17         ` Oleg Drokin
2003-02-14 10:50           ` Andreas Dilger
2003-02-14 10:59             ` Oleg Drokin
2003-02-14 13:34             ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-14 16:04               ` Rudy Zijlstra
2003-02-14 19:06               ` Andreas Dilger
2003-02-14 19:19                 ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-15 12:51                   ` Vitaly Fertman
2003-02-15 13:00                     ` Vitaly Fertman
2003-02-18 19:50                       ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-18 20:05                         ` Vitaly Fertman
2003-02-18 22:18                           ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-15 13:04                     ` Anders Widman
2003-02-15 13:23                       ` Oleg Drokin
2003-02-17 19:43                     ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-15 22:37                   ` Andreas Dilger
2003-02-18 18:21                     ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-18 19:22                       ` Oleg Drokin
2003-02-18 19:28                         ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-18 21:17                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-02-18 22:02                       ` Matthias Andree
2003-02-19  6:26                         ` Oleg Drokin
2003-02-18 22:23                       ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-12 18:27 Anders Widman
2003-02-11 18:59 Dirk Schenkewitz
2003-02-11 20:27 ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-11 21:30   ` Mike Hodson
2003-02-11 21:47     ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-11 21:58     ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-12  6:35       ` Oleg Drokin
2003-02-11 23:11     ` Adam Goryachev
2003-02-11 23:17       ` Anders Widman
2003-02-12  0:12         ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-12 10:23           ` Anders Widman
2003-02-12 10:47             ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-12 11:12               ` Adam Goryachev
2003-02-12 13:42                 ` Anders Widman
2003-02-12 14:15                   ` Russell Coker
2003-02-12 15:26                     ` Anders Widman
2003-02-12 16:22                       ` bscott
2003-02-12 16:28                       ` Russell Coker
2003-02-12 16:40                         ` Anders Widman
2003-02-13  3:42                       ` Zygo Blaxell
2003-02-13 10:13                         ` Anders Widman
2003-02-13 14:44                           ` Rudy Zijlstra
2003-02-13  3:31                     ` Zygo Blaxell
2003-02-12 16:39                 ` Sam Vilain
2003-02-12  5:12         ` Ross Vandegrift
2003-02-12  7:17         ` Oleg Drokin
2003-02-12 10:17         ` Alexander Lyamin
2003-02-12 10:19           ` Alexander Lyamin
2003-02-12 16:25         ` Vitaly Fertman
2003-02-12 16:56           ` Anders Widman
2003-02-12 17:13             ` Oleg Drokin
2003-02-12  1:02       ` Mike Hodson
2003-02-12  7:25         ` Oleg Drokin
2003-02-12  9:45         ` Hans Reiser
2003-02-12 16:09         ` Sam Vilain

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