Re: Stop false review statements

[Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>]

On 16/05/2026 14:23, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On 5/16/26 05:16, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On 16/05/2026 14:11, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>> On Sat, May 16, 2026 at 10:05:02AM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>> What the hell is that:
>>>>
>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260515190707.033BDC2BCB0@smtp.kernel.org/
>>>>
>>>> As a bot you CANNOT MAKE a Reviewer's statement of oversight. You are
>>>> not a damn human do be able to make such statement. You are a bot, a tool.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Where exactly do the rules say that ? I seem to miss that.
>>>
>>> There is a policy document about _contributions_ made by AI, but I don't
>>> see the one that says that AI agents must not provide Reviewed-by: tags.
>>
>> Quotes from the existing policy:
>>
>> 1. "By offering my Reviewed-by: tag, I state that:"
>>
>> Tool cannot use first person "I". Tool cannot "state that".
>>
>> 2. "A Reviewed-by tag is *a statement of opinion* that the patch is an
>>   appropriate modification of the kernel without any remaining serious"
>>
>> Tool cannot make a statement of opinion.
>>
>> 3. "Any interested reviewer (who has done the work) can offer a
>> Reviewed-by".
>>
>> Tool is not a reviewer as a person, thus above does not grant the tool
>> permission to offer a tag.
>>
> 
> I'd like to see that explicitly spelled out. Until then it is your opinion.

It is not an opinion. It is written. I gave you quotes.

Do you want to spell the rules of English language? That tool is not a
person?

Shall I send the patch like:

  Any interested reviewer (who has done the work) can offer a
  Reviewed-by.
 +In English "reviewer" is a person [1].
 + [1] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/reviewer

Seriously, you expect to document the English language?

> 
>>>
>>>> Stop faking tags.
>>>>
>>>> And really, considering how many false positives Sashiko produces, how
>>>> poor review comments it gives, how many misleading comments, it's
>>>> unacceptable to me to consider that a review.
>>>>
>>>> Amount of useless noise Sashiko produces already changed my mind how
>>>> useful that tool is.
>>>
>>> We seem to have completely different experiences. Yes, it does produce
>>> false positives, just like humans do. However, I have seen it find many
>>> real bugs, including many in patches which already had Reviewed-by: tags
>>> from (presumably) human reviewers.
>>
>> Of course it finds bugs. But it also produces - roughly - 80-90% false
>> positives, completely useless.
>>
> 
> Really ? The ones I have seen are - roughly, to use the same term - 80-90%
> true positives. Maybe you should explicitly ask for no Sashiko reviews in
> your scope of responsibility.

I already sent a patch to stop receiving all these emails and I stopped
reading them completely, when fetched via b4 for review in mutt workflow.

But this is not the point.

Our docs clearly state what Reviewed-by means, regardless of the quality
of the actual review. Poor quality is just another reason, less
important, though.

Best regards,
Krzysztof